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I really wonder if any animals are slaughtered specifically for the leather and not for food. I don't see how using the skin from last night's dinner is cruel. On the other hand if animals are raised in a cruel way specifically to protect and harvest the skin then that's a different matter.
 
I really wonder if any animals are slaughtered specifically for the leather and not for food. I don't see how using the skin from last night's dinner is cruel. On the other hand if animals are raised in a cruel way specifically to protect and harvest the skin then that's a different matter.

either way, the use of animal leather, etc. supports our dependence on livestock production
if there is less of a market for animal products, we wouldn't depend on their production as much
 
I really wonder if any animals are slaughtered specifically for the leather and not for food. I don't see how using the skin from last night's dinner is cruel. On the other hand if animals are raised in a cruel way specifically to protect and harvest the skin then that's a different matter.

Chinchillas, minks, ... Elephant wraps for cues and ivory.
 
Chinchillas, minks, ... Elephant wraps for cues and ivory.
I meant in terms of this specific mushroom product. Let me rephrase: Are there any calves or sheep being treated inhumanely only for their skin, or is use of the skin a good thing given that the animal was used for food anyway ala the Indians using every conceivable part of the animal?
 
I meant in terms of this specific mushroom product. Let me rephrase: Are there any calves or sheep being treated inhumanely only for their skin, or is use of the skin a good thing given that the animal was used for food anyway ala the Indians using every conceivable part of the animal?
The latter…
 
I meant in terms of this specific mushroom product. Let me rephrase: Are there any calves or sheep being treated inhumanely only for their skin, or is use of the skin a good thing given that the animal was used for food anyway ala the Indians using every conceivable part of the animal?

Thanks for the clarification. Can't think of any offhand except maybe guys who like to rape their sheep (ewes) for the fun of it.

Though they did use to shoot buffalo just for the hides and leave the bodies to rot. Even worse they would blast them from trains just for fun and leave the whole beastie to rot. The antithesis of the Indians.

Reminds me of my first gun offense as a 7-year-old. Had just gotten my first gun for my birthday and went squirrel hunting with my dad. I shot a woodpecker for the fun of it because we had been out all day and I got bored. Dad quickly trotted over from his hiding place to remind me of one of his rules, "If you kill it, you got to eat it!" A powerful lesson that has served me well over the years.
 
I meant in terms of this specific mushroom product. Let me rephrase: Are there any calves or sheep being treated inhumanely only for their skin, or is use of the skin a good thing given that the animal was used for food anyway ala the Indians using every conceivable part of the animal?

Apply the lotion!

(I caught part of Silence of the Lambs last night)


I've grown mycelium before. It is very fiberous and tough.

I'm going to buy the psylocybe ones, just in case the tip falls off.


Jeff Livingston
 
I'm thinking of inventing/marketing a leather tip made from the skins of dead animals found on the roadsides.

Gonna call my product: Roadkill Tips

Maniac
 
I'm thinking of inventing/marketing a leather tip made from the skins of dead animals found on the roadsides.

Gonna call my product: Roadkill Tips

Maniac
I am surprised no one has made a tip out of groundhog hide. I swear to God it has to be the toughest hide on the planet.
 
A bit off track but ..

I have a nice lamb skin winter coat and every now and then some dumbass will make a comment about inhumane treatment of animals. I feed them a BS story how it is ethically sourced etc etc.

Then when i have their attention i tell them all you do is leave the lambs in the wild and wait for natural predators to come along. Then you go pick up the hides afterwards. If you look really closely at the jacket you can still see the tooth marks of the wolves and bears.
 
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