Very nice Palmer original Custom Cue, Uncertain of the Catalog 1 or 2 ?

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Hello Az Members, another customer brought in a interesting cue today. I am uncertain which Catalog this cue is from, however I suspect that it from the first Palmer Original Catalog. The cue is in great condition, both shafts are perfectly straight with no run out. There is however, a slight wobble in the cues butt, but I suspect that it is the result of either the wrap or the V-notch in the butt. This really a great cue in superb condition, the only major detracting feature is some finish wear. Can anyone apply a estimated value to this cue?

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Thanks for any information in advance!!!!!!
 
guycrunch said:
looks like a second catalog model H, altho the joint collars are a little different from the catalog. refer to tate's site here for the value:

http://www.palmercollector.com/SecondCatalogCueValues.html

guy
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I also thought that this cue may have been a Model H, however, the Black Pearl collars and the Screw off Ferrules kinda make me think that this cue is from the first catalog. Thanks for the information, and have a great night man!!!!!
 
guycrunch said:
i have a model 16 from the third catalog with screw on ferrules.

guy
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You know Guy, another thing that still makes me suspect that the cue is from the first catalog, is the type of the weight bolt used to hold the butt plate on. All the cues I have see from the second catalog required a Allen wrench to tighten them or remove them. The cue I have pictured requires a regular screw driver for removal, which was the most common type used on early Palmer cues.

I have also sent these photo's to Chris, maybe he will know for certain!!

Have a great night
 
Hi Craig,

I've been on vacation and haven't caught up yet. It's a Model H from the second catalog. The black pearlized collars were standard. The one I have here is actually unusual because it has the white collars:

http://www.palmercollector.com/Model-H-page.html

I've seen both weight bolts used on all the cues from the first and second catalog, and a lot of tem get changed out along the way depending on weight and if someone preferred to have a screw hole tapped for the bumber.


By the pictures you posted, I am pretty sure your customer's cue has a Szamboti forearm because it sure has that look to it and they were used a lot on on these premium cues with the ebony points and coloed veneers.

In any case, I am sure everyone will agree it's a classically beautiful cue. This is a simple design but it's one of my favorite Palmers.

Chris
 
the model h is one of my favorites as well, i love the wedge. craig you have a great run on some nice palmers, keep it up.

guy
 
TATE said:
Hi Craig,

I've been on vacation and haven't caught up yet. It's a Model H from the second catalog. The black pearlized collars were standard. The one I have here is actually unusual because it has the white collars:

http://www.palmercollector.com/Model-H-page.html

I've seen both weight bolts used on all the cues from the first and second catalog, and a lot of tem get changed out along the way depending on weight and if someone preferred to have a screw hole tapped for the bumber.


By the pictures you posted, I am pretty sure your customer's cue has a Szamboti forearm because it sure has that look to it and they were used a lot on on these premium cues with the ebony points and coloed veneers.

In any case, I am sure everyone will agree it's a classically beautiful cue. This is a simple design but it's one of my favorite Palmers.

Chris
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Hello Chris, and thanks for the information. Chris when was this cue made? The gentleman who brought it in is the Original Owner, he said he purchased it in the late 60's from Palmer. Also what is the value of this cue with or without a Szamboti Forearm? The reason I ask, is because I did not think that Gus made forearms in the 60's or did you mean Burton Spain?

Thanks in advance Chris and have a great day buddy!!!!!!!
 
manwon said:
Hello Chris, and thanks for the information. Chris when was this cue made? The gentleman who brought it in is the Original Owner, he said he purchased it in the late 60's from Palmer. Also what is the value of this cue with or without a Szamboti Forearm? The reason I ask, is because I did not think that Gus made forearms in the 60's or did you mean Burton Spain?

Thanks in advance Chris and have a great day buddy!!!!!!!
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They started making these in about 1968 or so and they used both forearms, first Spain then Gus. If you can verify the date as 1968 or 1969, it could be a Burton Spain forearm becasue Gus didn't start making them until later. It's hard to tell the difference because Palmer cut the Spain forearm short.

I have one from the late 60's that looks just like it. This cue is worth at least $2,000 maybe $2200 if it's in great shape whether or not Spain/Szamboti forearm. This forearm is virtually identical to the Spain balabushka cues. I held mine up against a Spain Balabuskha and it was identical.

If you are refinishing a cue like this, best to protect the plastic and use stripper and steel wool instead of sanding on the points.

Chris
 
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TATE said:
They started making these in about 1968 or so and they used both forearms, first Spain then Gus. If you can verify the date as 1968 or 1969, it could be a Burton Spain forearm becasue Gus didn't start making them until later. It's hard to tell the difference because Palmer cut the Spain forearm short.

I have one from the late 60's that looks just like it. This cue is worth at least $2,000 maybe $2200 if it's in great shape whether or not Spain/Szamboti forearm. This forearm is virtually identical to the Spain balabushka cues. I held mine up against a Spain Balabuskha and it was identical.

If you are refinishing a cue like this, best to protect the plastic and use stripper and steel wool instead of sanding on the points.

Chris
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Thanks Chris, due to the condition of this cue, I have already told this gentleman not to refinish it.

Have a great day!!!
 
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