Video - 14.1 Evaluation of SpiderWebbComm

Great stories!

Frank

I believe he could have stopped off of the 7. If he couldn't, he should still have followed the basic end pattern that I outlined.

Everybody is going to see something different, and everybody will come up with different solutions, just read the "Run This" series in this forum. In the first rack, I saw about 3 separate but different end patterns - but I decided to choose the easiest one to illustrate my point.

The shot you are talking about, I know how to manipulate the cue ball to get in line for the 6 with very little movement. I call them "snip shots" where you gently push the center axis of the object ball ball towards the center of the pocket pocket and stun or freeze the cue ball or draw back a hair. I call them "snip shots", Filipino player Edgar Acaba is a master at these types of shots.
 
Blackjack said:
Great stories!

Frank

I believe he could have stopped off of the 7. If he couldn't, he should still have followed the basic end pattern that I outlined.

Everybody is going to see something different, and everybody will come up with different solutions, just read the "Run This" series in this forum. In the first rack, I saw about 3 separate but different end patterns - but I decided to choose the easiest one to illustrate my point.

The shot you are talking about, I know how to manipulate the cue ball to get in line for the 6 with very little movement. I call them "snip shots" where you gently push the center axis of the object ball ball towards the center of the pocket pocket and stun or freeze the cue ball or draw back a hair. I call them "snip shots", Filipino player Edgar Acaba is a master at these types of shots.
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Thanks

I played a little two days ago and came to about 2-3 situations in a race to 100 where I had to choose between leaving a shot that I knew/thought was better but I "believed" I only had a medium chance of making or taking a safer route more safely extending my runs albeit that they were short :frown:

I think thats a big part of what I struggle with is when to leave certain angles and when not to.

I didnt run very many during the race to 100 but I got there first. I had
small runs of 19-15-21. Twice I messed up on easier shots leaving myself bad and then I missed the break shot once...that was the 21.

Going to play more today. Looking for 100 by next May 14th. Starting with a run of 60+ which would beat my high run. Timeframe there is
3 months.
 
frankncali said:
Thanks

I played a little two days ago and came to about 2-3 situations in a race to 100 where I had to choose between leaving a shot that I knew/thought was better but I "believed" I only had a medium chance of making or taking a safer route more safely extending my runs albeit that they were short :frown:

I think thats a big part of what I struggle with is when to leave certain angles and when not to.

I didnt run very many during the race to 100 but I got there first. I had
small runs of 19-15-21. Twice I messed up on easier shots leaving myself bad and then I missed the break shot once...that was the 21.

Going to play more today. Looking for 100 by next May 14th. Starting with a run of 60+ which would beat my high run. Timeframe there is
3 months.
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I know how that feels. Lately its been raining every day - hot and humid - after 20+ years in El Paso, I am finding it very difficult to adjust to the cloth. Lately my runs have been between 50-70 (when I get into the balls) - no big runs lately.
 
Blackjack said:
The shot you are talking about, I know how to manipulate the cue ball to get in line for the 6 with very little movement. I call them "snip shots" where you gently push the center axis of the object ball ball towards the center of the pocket pocket and stun or freeze the cue ball or draw back a hair. I call them "snip shots", Filipino player Edgar Acaba is a master at these types of shots.
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Blackjack, can you diagram this on the cuetable with the big english ball? I'm trying to understand the exact english you would put on the cueball, and where on the object ball you're contacting to give the cueball maximum hold.
This is what I try to do when holding the ball, but you may have a better technique that would be more useful. Is this it? You hit at pocket speed, and spin the object ball into the pocket off of what would have been a center ball contact point into the cushion? Is the english below the way you would do it?

CueTable Help

 
David, This was superb commentary. I make all the same errors that Spider does and I need to evaluate more as well. Freqntly I do an initial eval after the break ID problems and KBs to fi them but I get caught up and do not re eval as run progresses and do not see lanes that open up. I also get caught up in making the balls as well.

Spider thanks for shooting the balls and I look fwd to seeing higher runs from you.

I need to set up my camera and run some myself.
 
Maybe Harriman can have Blackjack help him with his 280 run. I'd pay a buck or two extra to have someone like BJ either help Danny with the graphics or do a separate audio track.
 
bud green said:
Maybe Harriman can have Blackjack help him with his 280 run. I'd pay a buck or two extra to have someone like BJ either help Danny with the graphics or do a separate audio track.
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That would be funny. The truth is that he probably does screw up a few times on the way to that 280. I've yet to see a run that didn't require some scrambling.
 
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bud green said:
Maybe Harriman can have Blackjack help him with his 280 run. I'd pay a buck or two extra to have someone like BJ either help Danny with the graphics or do a separate audio track.
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Danny's 280 DVD is in the completion stages. Danny has done the commentary himself and it is going to be a great dvd. Danny is a great teacher and trust me, he doesn't need any help from me to explain his methods. I would love to get together with Danny someday to do an instructional dvd on 14.1 - that would be a lot of fun.
 
Oh sorry Blackjack. I mistook Bud's post. I thought he was joking that you would criticize Danny's 280-ball run like you did Dave's 39. I see now he was talking about helping with the production.
 
bluepepper said:
Oh sorry Blackjack. I mistook Bud's post. I thought he was joking that you would criticize Danny's 280-ball run like you did Dave's 39. I see now he was talking about helping with the production.
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LOL

My high run is 212, so if I'm watching someone run 280 - I'm learning, not teaching!

:p
 
I just watched this video, and after playing in the AZ State Championships, I wish I would have gotten to see this video BEFORE I played! With some practice and putting the methods used in this and other 14.1 videos before next year's event, I'm sure I'll be more confident in my 14.1 game!

Thanks again, BJ!
 
Blackjack obviously has a ton of respect for players like Danny so there's no way I'd think he'd be overly critical about anyones play.

I just thought that since BJ has spent a lot of time learning the photoshop stuff, he might be helpful in getting it produced more professionally since Danny might not want to spend a ton of time learning software.

I think I mentioned the second audio track because I remember watching a player review match that originally had Weenie Beenie and Ervolino do commentary, but later on the audio was changed to Fleming and the player doing the commentary. It always seemed a shame to not be able to hear what two legends were saying about the match. Different pros play different patterns so another view would always worth listening to.
 
That video was awesome. Thanks!

To a straight pool newbie that was priceless.

I saw the video before I read the whole thread. I thought the player was the same person doing the critique.

Now I know it isnt and he laid it on the line. (wow)

I plan to play in the LA straight pool tournament next month and trying to come up to speed on the game.

Straight pool is much more difficult than it looks. I have heard people say anyone can shoot any ball in any pocket, easy game. Ha!

I ran 28 on Sunday, I plan to beat that tonight.

Anyway thanks BJ and Spiderwebb for the great video and keep it up!

Thanks guys for a great forum!

SR
 
That was an awesome analysis, regardless of the run size. Heck, a 10 ball run would have been informative also with that type of setup. Thanks to Blackjack and SpiderWeb for increasing my puny knowledge of straight pool! I'm going to go practice right now!
 
Hey Guys :)

Blackjack, this is an awesom video, and I'll upload a video reply of some kind giving some views on the run as to how I would shoot it, which is a completely different pattern altogether, but then again everyone has their own preferences and styles of shoot :)

Thank you very much for posting the videos :)

Willie
 
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Fatboy said:
your hi run is higher than Archers.
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I just asked my roommate what his high run was, and he said he ran 150 and stopped. LOL! :D

He said he did run 120 when he was 14, which ain't too shabby.

Anything over 200 is championship quality, IMHO!:thumbup2:

JAM
 
Fatboy said:
your hi run is higher than Archers.
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Hmmmm.

Let's see...

Johnny can still kick my ass at ...

8 ball
9 ball
10 ball
Basketball
Stickball
Kickball
Racquetball
Tennis
and
Golf.

I don't think he has anything to worry about.

:p
 
Very nice video. I learned a thing or two off of it. I miss the cat too, lol jk. But that was so random I was wondering why you said it was the video with the cat because after the 1st rack you see a cat jump onto the table; how random lol but it was good.
 
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