I donate everytime i pay to watch one you fool.
Videographer gripe
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Well in GOD ABC use to do Pool, no more MSM coverage.
So be happy with streamers. Accustats does good job.
Also, watching the full motion of the players arm during the execution of shots is really missed.
A common source of frustration for myself and other lovers of pool who I speak with.
New ropes are scratchy. How would you like it if you had to take your dying breath with some scratchy-ass rope around your neck?
As an example of player technique information, in post #7 at 36 seconds of the video there is a great shot of the break stroke, then at 41 seconds it switches to a different angle, and at 43 seconds it goes to another angle. I think that sequence is beautiful but I also think in subsequent breaks they could give an extended view of one of those angles with a little technical detail of form and performance.
Classic..
Coo-coo attempts to use the rarely valid 'you didn't pay so have no basis for a gripe'.
G tells him he did pay.
Coo-coo responds with info about what TV used to show decades ago.
Coo-coo attempts to use the rarely valid 'you didn't pay so have no basis for a gripe'.
G tells him he did pay.
Coo-coo responds with info about what TV used to show decades ago.
He is the first one I mute. He speaks in a monotone voice, like Keanu Reeves, Chris Collingsworth, puts you to sleep. Boring as hell to listen to, no emotion, nearly a change in tone. He loves to hear himself talk, never comes up for air.
99% of the time I watch on a large screen TV, muted, with music on. I take it off mute for maybe a minute to hear the balls clicking, and that's it, back on mute. I'm fine watching, don't have to hear commenting.
The last 10 ball stream felt like I was watching it through binoculars from the wrong side.
I appreciate it all, send donations, will never say I can do it better, I know what I like, and don't like.
If you guys want to see quality streaming, watch just about any of the pro level 3 cushion events from Europe since about 2015.
It can be done and people are doing it. There is just little incentive to do it in American pool, past producers' personal passions.
It can be done and people are doing it. There is just little incentive to do it in American pool, past producers' personal passions.
That's not really a legitimate response. What you are proposing is precisely the reason so much streaming sucks right now.
Thousand different people all doing it their own way. We need KOZOOM and it needs to sell showing rights.
I don't care if they zoom in to show the setup. Oftentimes it lets me know what the shooter is thinking and provides a preview of what to expect from the shot. But before the stroke, switch to a shot that shows contact with the cue ball, its contact with the object ball, and the path of the object ball and the cue ball rollout. And if you can't manage it live, always have a wide backup shot that shows the whole table so you can replay.
And for Pete out loud! give us a replay as soon as the shot finishes, instead of making us watch the player walk around.
They do this in most sports. I hate it too...
Football: When the quarterback has the ball, you can't see any of the wide receivers when they go down field.
Baseball: When the pitcher has the ball, you can't see any of the outfielders.
Hockey: When the puck is near one end of the ice, you can't see the goalie at the other end.
Football: When the quarterback has the ball, you can't see any of the wide receivers when they go down field.
Baseball: When the pitcher has the ball, you can't see any of the outfielders.
Hockey: When the puck is near one end of the ice, you can't see the goalie at the other end.
And its for sale. Hope someone like BigTruck/PoolAction buys it.Well in GOD ABC use to do Pool, no more MSM coverage.
So be happy with streamers. Accustats does good job.
This might not be of interest to pool players, but Kozoom has started live streaming 3C past matches to which they have added commentary (the steam also includes pool matches but I haven't watched any of them). The commentary is particularly good when the commentators are Tjorborn Blomdal and Bert van Manen. They do as good a job as any cue sport commentators I've heard. And as one of THE top guys for 40 years and one who would get a lot of votes for GOAT, Blomdahl has and shares a tremendous amount of knowledge on some aspects many players never get to, position play and kiss avoidance (something near to my heart as my screen name shows. The production values are outstanding, as Kozoom has been videoing matches for a long long time.
Streaming for most part is bush league, the only stream I have personally viewed that were any good was Accustats.
OnTheRail that Fastlenny did was typical bush league production. He tried hard, but not something I would pay to watch.
Want quality you need more then one static camera. Plus crap audio.
OnTheRail that Fastlenny did was typical bush league production. He tried hard, but not something I would pay to watch.
Want quality you need more then one static camera. Plus crap audio.
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tomatoshooter
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I like when the old timers tell stories or talk about the players' histories. Bill Incardona and Grady Matthews were funny to listen to. At least 75% of pool is self explanatory and you can see where everything is. I do like when the announcers talk about some of the nuances of the game but for me they are largely there to break up the silence. They also don't need to make sure there is no silence, just not too much.
tomatoshooter
Well-known member
Yes, a lot of lower budget streams have no light beyond the table or are framed so tightly that you can only see the table itself.
Also, watching the full motion of the players arm during the execution of shots is really missed.
A common source of frustration for myself and other lovers of pool who I speak with.