Vintage Adam Cue Identification – Looking for Model, Year & Catalog Match

Sooner32 said:
I think all production cue companies made some ugly cues back then but a lot of good looking cues were made also. There are so many more made today that I can't stand.

I always liked playing with Meucci and Joss cues but here's a 70's McDermott that I think looks great

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It's a real mix, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, and beyond. There are the classic "timeless" and then there are those that are more specific to the taste of the time.

I gravitate toward some of the designs of the 50's and 60's because they are nostalgic, not because I think they are particularly handsome. I collect some like that. Early Gandy, late National, Viking, others.
 
Chopdoc said:
Do you actually want to see them? You will find things like full splice with veneers, real ebony, real wood dashed rings, and other such features you might not like.
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i like all of that actually. i agree on the metal railroad rings on the schons, i just picked an example of the overall style. SW style rings would be my favorite for rings, but simpler wood dashed can be nice too
 
Sooner32 said:
I think all production cue companies made some ugly cues back then but a lot of good looking cues were made also. There are so many more made today that I can't stand.

I always liked playing with Meucci and Joss cues but here's a 70's McDermott that I think looks great

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meucci made cues that early? if so, definitely counters my theory/question that production cues were ugly in 1970's
 
skogstokig said:
i like all of that actually. i agree on the metal railroad rings on the schons, i just picked an example of the overall style. SW style rings would be my favorite for rings, but simpler wood dashed can be nice too
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I figured you would, I was being facetious. ;)
 
skogstokig said:
meucci made cues that early? if so, definitely counters my theory/question that production cues were ugly in 1970's
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You might not recognize the earliest cues made by Bob Meucci.

You're comment is interesting to me because overall I don't like meucci designs, though I like some. I find them generally ugly. I own exactly one Meucci cue.
 
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Chopdoc said:
It's a real mix, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, and beyond. There are the classic "timeless" and then there are those that are more specific to the taste of the time.

I gravitate toward some of the designs of the 50's and 60's because they are nostalgic, not because I think they are particularly handsome. I collect some like that. Early Gandy, late National, Viking, others.
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In the 50's, 60's there were 2 styles of cues, Rambow and Harvey Martin!
 
Chopdoc said:
You might not recognize the earliest cues made by Bob Meucci.

You're comment is interesting to me because overall I don't like meucci designs, though I like some. I find them generally ugly. I own exactly one Meucci cue.
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they got a little carried away in the late 80's and 90's, i don't like the too busy ones. but generally nice designs for a production cue. i would like to see the early ones
 
Chopdoc said:
You might not recognize the earliest cues made by Bob Meucci.

You're comment is interesting to me because overall I don't like meucci designs, though I like some. I find them generally ugly. I own exactly one Meucci cue.
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I like a lot of the Meucci Original designs but more specifically the 84 series, Jim Rempe cues, some of the David Howard models. I have an 84-5 that I like. There's an 84-6 on ebay now but I need to quit spending money on cues for now.

In the late 80's I was playing with a Meucci but wanted a Joss or Schon. Got a used gold letter Joss and they are by far my favorite production cue maker. I need to add a block letter Joss and a gold letter Joss to my collection now. Never did get a Schon. Back in the 80's and early 90's almost all of the cues I bought were used and at a pool hall or from a pawn shop. I used to go looking at pawn shops for something interesting.
 
Sooner32 said:
I like a lot of the Meucci Original designs but more specifically the 84 series, Jim Rempe cues, some of the David Howard models. I have an 84-5 that I like. There's an 84-6 on ebay now but I need to quit spending money on cues for now.

In the late 80's I was playing with a Meucci but wanted a Joss or Schon. Got a used gold letter Joss and they are by far my favorite production cue maker. I need to add a block letter Joss and a gold letter Joss to my collection now. Never did get a Schon. Back in the 80's and early 90's almost all of the cues I bought were used and at a pool hall or from a pawn shop. I used to go looking at pawn shops for something interesting.
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The only guy that used to beat me regularly in college had a Meucci. He kept trying to play me for my block letter Joss. Glad I didn't. I still own it. He became an engineer I think.
 
Anyone have a guess?

Ive owned it over 30 years. Was used when i got it. Still straight but i used it to break with in my younger years and the shaft is cracking at the feral. But would love to know what it is and if anyone would use the join on my shaft to make me another one.
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Beaud82 said:
Anyone have a guess?

Ive owned it over 30 years. Was used when i got it. Still straight but i used it to break with in my younger years and the shaft is cracking at the feral. But would love to know what it is and if anyone would use the join on my shaft to make me another one. View attachment 919307View attachment 919308
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This model is not in my files.

As for the shaft, any competent cue maker can cut the shaft off the joint, turn a dowel on the remaining bit, and put a new shaft on it.
 
In late 66 or early 67 Dick Helmstetter moved to Chicago!

Dick was a 3C player that started coming around Bensingers, we became friendly and after He locked up the Cue Manufacturing job for National Chalk He asked me to come work there!

In 67 I was going to Chicago Technical College for Architecture from 1pm - 5pm, I worked at National from 8am-noon!

Dick was an easy-going guy and was Really managed/hired people, one of those was Craig Peterson!

Craig had already been a fixture as a 'Cue-Maker' for some years in Chicago, all His cues were 'Hand-made', Burt Spain and Craig were friends He made blanks for Craig. His shop was at, 'Howard-Paulina Billiards'!

Craig was Really the 'Master Cue Builder' at National, I just did ferrules, butt caps, grunt work!

Dick did design some models; Craig had much input as well!

I only lasted there for a year; my schedule changed the next year at college!

It was an experience that gave me an insight to How/Why of cues as a player!
 
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11Cues said:
I recently picked up this vintage cue and believe it to be an older Adam based on its construction and styling. Another member (thanks, Chopdoc!) suggested I post it here, as there are several members who may be able to help identify the exact model and production years.

I’d appreciate any information regarding the model designation, approximate year of manufacture, or a catalog reference if anyone recognizes it.

Specifications:

• Overall Length: 58”
• Weight: 17.0 oz
• Ferrule: 11.7 mm
• Oversized brass piloted joint with coarse-thread pin
• White/black Irish linen wrap
• Original matching shaft and ring pattern

I’ve attached several detailed photos of the cue, joint, butt sleeve, and overall construction.

Thanks in advance for any information you can share!
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I believe I had this as my first two piece cue in 1973.
 
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