Vintage Cue Experts Check this out - 1920-25 Herman Rambow Design w/Bell Ferrule 3-

classiccues said:
- 1923 first hub cue shown in Brunsick catalog

From the catalog

Hub01.jpg


Hub02.jpg


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Hub04.jpg
 
Jeff said:
From the catalog

Hub01.jpg


Hub02.jpg


Hub03.jpg


Hub04.jpg

Yes, great pics and to be accurate, do you see the shaft pin? Does the ebay cue have the bump on the shaft where the screw is? Would that bump be considered the precursor to the "ultra joint"? lol Like I said, sometimes the way you unscrew the butt will determine where that pin ends up. They are almost always loose. 4 out of the 10 I have seen were.

JV
 
Thanks to Classiccues

Thanks for providing all of the additional information on the HUB Cue, I appreciate it when experts share information. We all learn something every day!

Gus
 
Gus said:
Thanks for providing all of the additional information on the HUB Cue, I appreciate it when experts share information. We all learn something every day!

Gus


I agree 100%... TY to all that have shared with us.... Rep for you all
 
BPG24 said:
Noone has anything to say about the cue?
Its history/rarity etc

Beautiful cue and hard to find. The Hub cue took off at Brunswick after Rambow designed it and left the company, from what I remember reading.

That doesn't look like a bell ferrule - more like a shaft that's been sanded down up to the ferrule. But perhaps it's a bell ferrule that's been sanded down to the shaft?
 
About 7 or 8 years ago, an old man came into my shop with some mostly cheaper two piece to have re tipped. He said he had a small table in his basement for his Grand kids to play on as he seldom played any longer as he was in his eighties. one of these cues was a Brunswick Bell cue and another old Brunswick with an Ivory ferrule. I had never seen a bell cue before so never knew just what it was until after he left when I looked it up. He was just using them all for beaters for his Grand kids.

I got to talking to him and he said that he was retired from Proctor and Gamble and had started there as a chemist in the early forties and that his boss was supposed to be a very accomplished player and had gave him one of the two Brunswick's to get him interested in pool. He said he later bought Brunswick's house here in Cincinnati. He said the Billiard room was also the dance room for larger gatherings and that the oblong room had two alcoves, one on each side of the room. He said that originally the room contained both a pocket and a billiard table and that when the room was to be used for another purpose they had a lift that would pick up the table so that it could be put into one of the alcoves and then there were sliding doors that would be slid shut so that the tables were out of site. He was very interesting to talk to.

At any rate, the cue that he brought to me had a much larger bell than what is on this cue. It looked like a Trumpet it was so belled.

Dick
 
BPG24 said:
Bump for info... Surely someone knows something

The cue was designed Herman Rambo with the revolutionary weight / balancing system, above the wrap, thus the joint located there. This allowed many different types of wood to be used and still maintain the balance point of the cue where it needed to be. These cue were the first two piece Butts made by any cue maker in the United States, but Herman's use of different metals as a connection screw at this location made this additionally the first cue ever where the balance point could be controlled. For this innovation, Herman was awarded a Patent #1,527,748 for this the balancing system he designed.

Many Hub cues were made with Herman's hands, however, it is impossible to say for certain, unless the original owner has the documentation still around to show the cues was specially made for him by Herman.

In a nut shell, this cue and it's design were the most revolutionary thing that has happened in the art of cue making in this country in the last 200 years, and it is still used to this day, not to mention that it has never been improved upon!!!!

Oh and by the way, this is the best example of this model I have ever seen, and according to the seller it is in 100% original played condition.

Hope this helps
 
Reminder:

Reminder, this cue goes off today on eBay at 19:16 PM PST. Good luck everyone!

Gus:)
 
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This just shows how little I know about Vintage cues...

It is sitting on $1400 and I was thinking it would be worth 3-4 times that amount
 
It ended at $2,275 and didn't meet the reserve amount. BTW, the blue book of cues valuations don't necessarily reflect current market values.
 
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