While I appreciate the fanboy nature of our relationship, I don't pause. But thank you for your interest in national defense.
Lou Figueroa
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While I appreciate the fanboy nature of our relationship, I don't pause. But thank you for your interest in national defense.
Lou Figueroa
I wonder how many people have signed up for this 3-day intensive pool clinic so far.
I would certainly think that they have other forms of advertising, As I'm quite sure that they fully understand how they will be treated here, so relying on AZB for more than some incidental business would be a poor decision....
Rather than read through all of the comments, many from those that have no idea what these clinics are all about. Of course there are many educated and informed posts in this thread as well from my brief scanning of the thread.
I have taken part of instruction from many different sources over my 30+ years at the game. Scott Lee, Tom Simpson 2 day clinic many years ago, seems like 20 years ago but I'm not exactly sure, Stan Shuffett, Little Joe V.. etc.
Tom's clinic was early in the game for me and I must say that there was a ton of info shown in the clinic, stroke analysis, aiming, banking, kicking, thinking through the game etc. Very thorough and a ton to take in but really geared at the person fairly new to the game IMHO. I was probably the most advanced player in my class but I still learned some cool concepts and info. Was it worth it? I don't remember the cost but it was far less than it is today but I still found value at the time, probably not as much as some of the other students.
For me, I find more value spending a few hours with Scott, Stan or Joe V but I'm at a different level than this class is geared at. This is just my opinion. To bash the class because you feel it's too high is just moronic. If you don't like the price, don't go. It's not for everyone, but it is for lot's of pool players and they offer a great service for a player wanting to learn a lot about the game so they can improve and move their game to the next level.
For me, it's about the small stuff. A hitch in my stroke, eye patterns, my PSR etc.
If someone is ok with spending a grand plus on 3 days of instruction, more the power to em. The negativity and hate is just uncalled for and extremely immature.
Joey Koontz
I have taken part of instruction from many different sources over my 30+ years at the game. Scott Lee, Tom Simpson 2 day clinic many years ago, seems like 20 years ago but I'm not exactly sure, Stan Shuffett, Little Joe V.. etc.
Tom's clinic was early in the game for me and I must say that there was a ton of info shown in the clinic, stroke analysis, aiming, banking, kicking, thinking through the game etc. Very thorough and a ton to take in but really geared at the person fairly new to the game IMHO. I was probably the most advanced player in my class but I still learned some cool concepts and info. Was it worth it? I don't remember the cost but it was far less than it is today but I still found value at the time, probably not as much as some of the other students.
For me, I find more value spending a few hours with Scott, Stan or Joe V but I'm at a different level than this class is geared at. This is just my opinion. To bash the class because you feel it's too high is just moronic. If you don't like the price, don't go. It's not for everyone, but it is for lot's of pool players and they offer a great service for a player wanting to learn a lot about the game so they can improve and move their game to the next level.
For me, it's about the small stuff. A hitch in my stroke, eye patterns, my PSR etc.
If someone is ok with spending a grand plus on 3 days of instruction, more the power to em. The negativity and hate is just uncalled for and extremely immature.
Joey Koontz
I'm not sure what you're saying, apparently. Just about every shot I see you shoot, you pause. And I'm not confusing the word "pause" with anything like "zero x velocity."
So, somethings a miss. I certainly agree that players don't need a pause, and that players like Bustamante, Mika, Shane don't have a pause in the physics sense (there's a zero X velocity, but they are still in motion in other axes, so no real physics pause. But your stroke, it looks like an obvious pause at the backswing.
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I do pause, er "set" at the beginning of my stroke. But it's a stretch to say there's "a pause" at the back. (But whadda I know.)
Today at the PH I tried to detect a pause and couldn't do it. Then I tried to consciously pause... THAT really fooked me up so it goes without saying I'm not doin' that.
Lou Figueroa
Your YouTube video when you played John shows a visible pause at the backstroke on nearly everyone of your shots. There are some (few) shots that there's arguably no pause, but no question in my view that you have a pause that would fit in the SPF definition.
The SPF instruction accentuate the Pause longer than normal for training and sending the message home the importance of the backstroke position. In normal practice, SPF users may have a shorter pause.
Your pause in the videos is often in the 1 second range.
Was there a thread specifically debating the definition of pause ?
Maybe not, but it seems like word definitions like pause and feel spark debate.
Seems odd to me to debate word definitions. Could be because I spend a lot of time with people and english is not their native language.
Normal conversations and discussions, intention and communication is more important than literal word definition.
Maybe not, but it seems like word definitions like pause and feel spark debate.
Seems odd to me to debate word definitions. Could be because I spend a lot of time with people and english is not their native language.
Normal conversations and discussions, intention and communication is more important than literal word definition.
That's because here at AZB, we'll argue about anything....
and everything..... :grin:
On game 7 where you should have gone 8 out, you visible paused on every shot except the last ball, which you missed. This should at least show the difference between pause and no pause. Some of the 7 shots you made were 1 second pause; some were closer to 1/2 second, but certainly a stopped motion that is very visible. The one you missed, there is no visible stop motion on your backstroke. The SPF guys would have a field day. You might not have missed that one if you paused.
(edit: correction, on the laptop instead of the phone, it's visible that you did pause on that last miss , but not as long as you pause on other crucial shots)
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Caught on camera but denies being there. Busted. But ya know what. Nice stroke Lou.
He doesn't have a pause, you moose.
Not saying it's wrong but if you teach or want someone to pause at the back of their stroke. Aren't you teaching a forward stroke only. Seems to me and again I may be wrong but SVB seems to have a pause. To me it appears he pauses and slightly goes backwards then forward again.
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As a neutral bystander with no skin in the game...I must admit after watching the beginning of this video, it's very clear that Lou pauses at the back of most of his strokes. I assume it's unintentional, but very very noticeable. ...not so much in JB's stroke.
Maybe a review of what SPF is about is in order for you? S= Set (the pause at the front with a specific purpose that you're describing).
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