Wanted: step by step Tip replacement.

PickPocket

PickPocket

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There is a few ways people do this, each has his own tools and tricks.

What I'm looking for is a hand process (I don't own a lathe). Any special instructions, or technics you've learned that make this process work for you the best.

Please include products that you include in this process as well. Thanks guys!


Currently, what I've been taught:

Cut off old tip with (box cutter/razor knife/xacto).
Use rapid top sander to remove clinging bits of left over tip/glue
Select a new tip (closest to dia of shaft)
sand bottom of new tip flat
score/gouge tip with knife
Start small pilot cavity in center of tip
apply quick drying cement/epoxy to tip/ferrel evenly.
Secure with some type of tip press, until glue is dry
Remove tip securing device
Trim/Sand excess tip from ferrel (lap lathe: standard file, lap, rolling back and forth until even)
Shape tip to preference.

Can anyone make any suggestions, or give me advise or input?
 
Once the tip is secured, I like to take a rubber mallet and spend a good 15 minutes LIGHTLY tapping the tip to get it to compress and break in while using a tip burnisher to keep it from mushrooming. Once I get it compressed THEN I will get to shaping it the way I want it. A little bit of spit on the edge by the ferrule will help set the shape. I just can't stand breaking in a new tip and jacking w/ shaping while I am playing and this helps a lot w/ that. Everything else looks right as far as I have always done tips.
 
PickPocket...People in the know do not use the tip clamp. They use a thick rubber band. The tip clamp can leave dings in your shaft.

Scott Lee
www.pooknowledge.com

PickPocket said:
There is a few ways people do this, each has his own tools and tricks.

What I'm looking for is a hand process (I don't own a lathe). Any special instructions, or technics you've learned that make this process work for you the best.

Please include products that you include in this process as well. Thanks guys!


Currently, what I've been taught:

Cut off old tip with (box cutter/razor knife/xacto).
Use rapid top sander to remove clinging bits of left over tip/glue
Select a new tip (closest to dia of shaft)
sand bottom of new tip flat
score/gouge tip with knife
Start small pilot cavity in center of tip
apply quick drying cement/epoxy to tip/ferrel evenly.
Secure with some type of tip press, until glue is dry
Remove tip securing device
Trim/Sand excess tip from ferrel (lap lathe: standard file, lap, rolling back and forth until even)
Shape tip to preference.

Can anyone make any suggestions, or give me advise or input?
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If you use super glue gel, you do not need to clamp it.

Having a tool to bring the edges flush (Porper little shaver) is helpful.

Why so aggressive with the undersurface of the tip?
 
EJmagnum186 said:
Once the tip is secured, I like to take a rubber mallet and spend a good 15 minutes LIGHTLY tapping the tip to get it to compress and break in while using a tip burnisher to keep it from mushrooming. Once I get it compressed THEN I will get to shaping it the way I want it. A little bit of spit on the edge by the ferrule will help set the shape. I just can't stand breaking in a new tip and jacking w/ shaping while I am playing and this helps a lot w/ that. Everything else looks right as far as I have always done tips.
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Just curious, but why not do the mallet tapping to compress the tip prior to putting it on the shaft or compress it in a vise before installing?
 
Don't see why you couldn't use a vise for that before you put the tip on and I have heard of plenty of people who soak and vise tips before putting them on. Just never done it that way. Like another poster said use thick rubber bands not a clamp. Good luck, and hope it helps.
 
Step 1 - Decide what tip you want

Step 2 - take cue to local, reputable repair guy

Step 3 - pay him the $10 he charges to do it right


Eric
 
http://vimeo.com/7055733

This is what I followed when I did it my first time. It's in parts so check all the other videos from the same user.

What's most important is you make sure the ferrule is perfectly flat. Check it with a metal ruler. Do not glue the tip on until it is.
 
Soaking/pressing tips.

As in soaking in water, glue, something else?! Then pressing them, until dry. Can someone enlighten me about this process please?
 
PickPocket said:
Are you saying the tweeten tip clamp (that uses the rubberband) is not good for it?
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it is not good... it will ding your shaft

cut a thick rubber band so it is a long strip, pull down both "legs to put pressure on the tip and then take one leg and wrap it around the shaft & other leg and then tuck it in between the tip and where you wrapped it... holds perfectly
 
Aggressive behavior..

Dead Crab said:
If you use super glue gel, you do not need to clamp it.

Having a tool to bring the edges flush (Porper little shaver) is helpful.

Why so aggressive with the undersurface of the tip?
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The reason I was given to do this, is so the glue "roots" better, and holds the tip on better. Maybe for people that break hard?.. I'm not 100% sure. I posted this because I want to learn from others experience.
 
Good to know!

joelpope said:
it is not good... it will ding your shaft

cut a thick rubber band so it is a long strip, pull down both "legs to put pressure on the tip and then take one leg and wrap it around the shaft & other leg and then tuck it in between the tip and where you wrapped it... holds perfectly
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Thank you!
 
List of handy tools for this....

Rapid cue top sander Yes/No?
Porper lil shaver Yes/No?
Thick rubberband
Super glue gel? (any other recommends) will it stain/discolor the ferrel?
Regular file
Razor knife
 
Any tip..

Would this be the same process for any regular tip?

Is there anything to add/take away from for layered tips?

What about phenolic?
 
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