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:mad:Well, I have been putting this off for some time waiting to get the MO inquiry back. Looks like from the clerks stamp it was cashed on 11/25/09. I saw a post for JB Whimsy case posted for sale about mid November for 450.00 by dakaratestar. I sent him a pm stating that i would give him 425.00 if he would accept. He pm me back saying sure but could i send him a MO instead. I was kind of skeptical on sending a MO but i had done a lot of transaction with fellow azers with no problem. And he had 2 feedbacks of 100 so i decided to take the chance so i sent the 425.00 on 11/20/09. Communication was great until i pm'ed him saying that i had sent the MO then the communication stopped! I never received the JB Case of course and he would not respond to my pm's. but i knew he was online lurking because i would check the time he was online. I tried calling him with a # he gave me before i sent the money order and only got a answering machine and then a fax tone. I left a visitor message and it is still posted under his profile. still no response. Well later he posts up a Martinez for sale and i intervene on the post. and what was strange he posts the Martinez for exact amount he ripped me off. Ted(Cuesblues) also tried to have him respond to the post about the Martinez and he would not respond so i think he was trying to rip someone else off. I send him another pm stating i would take the Martinez instead of the JB to try to recoup something. Well a shocker he responds and says he will send the Martinez. But of course that didnt happen either.
It is an outrage and a disgrace for him to even have the privilege to log on to the az forum. I hope this will help someone from being ripped off by this guy supposedly his name is Leo Liu. But if you notice on the MO when it was cashed it doesnt look like that at all. I cant make it out. If someone has any helpful info on exposing the true identity of this guy please post or pm me.
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Postal money order theft is a fed. offense. talk to the postal inspector asap, thats why I always prefer postal M.O., They are serious about this kind of stuff. Hope you can get this worked out quick.

H.P.
 
Many people have said it already, but I will add to the list.

USING THE MAIL TO DEFRAUD SOMEONE IS VERY SERIOUS BUSINESS! Messing with the U.S. Postal system is like crossing the IRS. You have no chance once they come after you, unless you want to be on the run for the rest of your life over $425. This egg has created some very bad karma for himself!

And they have the goods on him. He won't be hard to find. It won't be pretty when the Feds come to his door about 6 AM one morning. The time for talking is now over. First they cuff you, then they read you your rights and next is a back seat ride straight to jail. And the bail won't be cheap either, maybe something like $50,000. It'll cost him $5,000 just to bail out! That $425 theft isn't looking like such a smart move now, is it dumbass?

I've always said, "A thief only steals from himself." Pretty stiff price to pay for a petty theft. He might get off easy if he has a clean record, maybe only 15-18 months for an offense like this. Good luck sucker! You'll need it.
 
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I also have been ripped off by a AZ'r and by the pm's i recieved i was not the only one. I now only ship with a signature required pay pal or use a 3rd party offered here by the forum.You cannot expect or want the forum fathers to police everyones deals.You cannot trust anyone on the other side of your monitor THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW.
 
Trying to help

IF you can get in contact or whatever. I would be more than happy to pick the item up for you and ship it to you. I'm just north of New Jersey. Just let me know. I can also go to the address and knock on the door. and say "GIVE ME THE CASE" :)

just want to help a brother AZer out.
 
This post of his may be of interest. :)
I go to Rutgers in NJ. We have a pool table in almost every dorm building, and that's ALOT of tables. These tables usually get a new cloth every school year too.

I am a member of a school billiads club on FACEBOOK. and since I had won a few school organized tournaments, some of these people in the Facebook club would ask me for instructions, information about how to get better, where to play tournaments and so on. Many of them are amazed and eager to learn what I do on a pool table. and I am only a B player.

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I'm only 15 minutes from Sandcastle...let me know what you find out then I'll reach out to friends I know that go there...
 
someone needs to pay this guy a visit around 3am when he is asleep and not expecting a visit, and beat the cast out of him. thats just plain bad dealings to do this to people. In the end all you have is your word when it comes to dealing on the internet, and his isnt worth poop......... hope you get your case or your cash.
 
Thanks for the heads up on this cheat.

I noticed that the last digit of his drivers license number on the money order was different on the front then it was on the back..... might have give both numbers to the police
 
this is the kind of post that i hate seeing...a fellow azer who is honest getting ripped off by some jack a$$....i have been really happy 99% of my dealings on az and almost all have deliverd exactly was they said...i am very sorry to here this and i hope things get resloved...one way or :bash:...keep the faith with azers most of us are really good people who just enjoy pool and pool related items....mickey carroll

Hey Mickey,
I could not agree more. JL is a super nice guy and hate to see this stuff happen. I hope he gets caught and I hope there is a 21-220z sp around to convince him about giving the money back.
 
someone needs to pay this guy a visit around 3am when he is asleep and not expecting a visit, and beat the cast out of him. thats just plain bad dealings to do this to people. In the end all you have is your word when it comes to dealing on the internet, and his isnt worth poop......... hope you get your case or your cash.

I hope you get your case AND your cash! Is there any way to get this douche bag's accound banned. We don't need him on here ripping more people off. Good luck to you OP.
 
I wish this could have stayed in the wanted/for sale section until this is set straight =/. Guess I'm not a moderator though. :sorry:
 
Here is some information for you:

Vivian C Ying
256 Silver Ln
Old Bridge, NJ 08857
732-360-0437
 
IF you can get in contact or whatever. I would be more than happy to pick the item up for you and ship it to you. I'm just north of New Jersey. Just let me know. I can also go to the address and knock on the door. and say "GIVE ME THE CASE" :)

just want to help a brother AZer out.

I like your style! That's the way we handled matters like this in the old days. Nothing like a direct confrontation to iron things out - QUICK!
 
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