Water-based Auto Clear

[scdiveteam]

How much time does your floor spend outdoors on the 405...in a rainstorm...or in 100 heat?

Randy,

Temp range from 30 below zero to way above 100 degrees.

Also acid ran and and road salt may be added to your list.

I use a 2k speed clear automotive clear coat that is cured and can be waxed 4 days after it is applied. I used to use very expensive concept clear but it took a month to cure. You could not wax it for a month. So after buffing it out and shipping it I told the customer to wax it after a month.

Today I don't ship the cue without waxing it and it gives me peace of mind that its is protected from oxidation. Waxing the cue with a pure carnauba product without cleaners or abrasives also put the final touch on the luster. Lets face it, would you ever buff out a car and skip the wax application.

Rick

 

[Dave38]

http://www.kbs-coatings.com/DiamondFinish-Clear-Directions.html
I have that .
It's a single parter .
And it's supposed to get really hard.
It's not water based. Afaik only color paints are wb.
Being in Nazifornia, I asked around. I asked body shops and auto painting teachers.

This one smells pretty nasty though. I brushed it on to test it on a sneaky.
It did get hard. And unlike water clear Enduro, it sticks to synthetics too.
It has no haze. It might not be a bad sealer before epoxy coat and clear.

Joey, did you sand/buff this test sneaky after using Diamond? How was it? I've done some searching and it has mixed reviews depending on what date they posted on. Seems like they reformulated it a couple years ago.
Dave

 

[Dave38]

haha............ good point.............

what I use has UV inhibitors and is hard as a rock.......... no one has shown any wear from shooting pool....


Kim

Would you care to share which one? I have tried a floor coating, but it didn't have UV in it and it stayed kinda soft.
Thanks,
Dave

 

[pescadoman]

Would you care to share which one? I have tried a floor coating, but it didn't have UV in it and it stayed kinda soft.
Thanks,
Dave

Enduro is a very good one. I've used it on cues and still have some.

Joey did quite a bit with Enduro IIRC, at least testing....

 

[JoeyInCali]

Enduro is a very good one. I've used it on cues and still have some.

Joey did quite a bit with Enduro IIRC, at least testing....

I did. I gave up on it . Turns milky after a while.
You might as well use BSI epoxy coat. Much harder and clearer .
No after spray to deal with either .

If you are going to spray auto clear, better have supplied air breather and a booth. One company makes a 5-stage air dryer and supplied air filter in one if you like to spend some money.

 

[pescadoman]

I did. I gave up on it . Turns milky after a while.
You might as well use BSI epoxy coat. Much harder and clearer .
No after spray to deal with either .

If you are going to spray auto clear, better have supplied air breather and a booth. One company makes a 5-stage air dryer and supplied air filter in one if you like to spend some money.

Hmmmn.. after how long? My first cue was done with it about 5 years ago and I'm pretty sure it isn't milky....

 

[Dave38]

Well, I bought a quart of Diamond clear and going to do some testing on bar butts that I have prep'd just for this type of stuff. I'll be spraying a couple of WB types and brushing on the Diamond Clear...no spray for that stuff, too dangerous. Hopefully I'll have some good data to report back later with.
Dave

 

[GBCues]

Hmmmn.. after how long? My first cue was done with it about 5 years ago and I'm pretty sure it isn't milky....

I have seen the milkiness but that was because I sprayed it on too think.
I thought that it would clear up after some months, but that is not the case.
Other cues that I sprayed more correctly have not shown the milkiness that Joey refers to.
My 2 cents
Gary

 

[shankster8]

Well, I bought a quart of Diamond clear and going to do some testing on bar butts that I have prep'd just for this type of stuff. I'll be spraying a couple of WB types and brushing on the Diamond Clear...no spray for that stuff, too dangerous. Hopefully I'll have some good data to report back later with.
Dave

Dave, have you formed opinions yet regarding Diamond Clear and the other water based products you were going to test.

 

[Dave38]

Dave, have you formed opinions yet regarding Diamond Clear and the other water based products you were going to test.

Still in testing mode. I decided to do the diamond clear first, as it takes awhile to cure. The diamond needs moisture in the air to cure properly and without enough the cure time goes about 4 times longer.Right now it's only about 18-20% humidity up here in the northeast. I'm working on ways to be able to up the humidity in the booth in a controlled way. The Manufacturer recommends 50%. The smell of this is very strong, Joey wasn't wrong when he said it was. My exhaust fan works well, but when I go into the back yard, it smells for a few.
So far I have sanded and buffed three test pieces after 3 coats each and it sanded well, and buffed very nicely. I also liked the feel of it. It seems to be a hard finish. I have 2 cues in the process of finishing. I'm going for 6 coats total, 2 coats each time. The handling of this stuff is tricky. It will weld the lid to the can if you spill any on it. I filled a few small babyfood jars and use wax paper on the jar then put the cover on. Use a good mask and gloves, as this doesn't cleanup with regular thinner.
I'll post pics of the cues when done.
Dave