WD700 according medium tip

riedmich

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Hi all,

before a couple of days I purchased a new Mezz cuestick (AXI-K) with the WD700 and the wavy joint. This cuestick shall become my all day player, just a well working cue, nothing else. But I've got a small problem right now, concerning the right tip for this cuestick.

The Triangel-milkduds, that I used to make for my Cem-Player before, worked perfectly and gave me most consistency and reliability with a medium / mediumhard feeling. (Shaft diameter 12,2 mm, slightly conical taper.). My Cem-player is still my heart's favourite because of it's extraordinary feeling, but the deflection is a bit too high, and I don't want to change anything else in the moment at that cuestick.

At the WD700 was a Moori M installed, but the cuestick gave me much too much spin and thus it was hard to control. So I thought, OK, doesn't matter, and replaced the Moori by my favourite Triangel-milkdud (They are most consistent from tip to tip due to my procedure of soaking and pressing, this is like a fundamentation, very constant hardness and elasticity).

But I was totally astonished when I played with it. The grip and control was like I was used to, but it felt much harder like I have it on my former player. There was also a certain "pling" to be heared, like it is at hard tips.

My first thought was: OK, maybe not mounted well or maybe too hard for this cuestick, so I replaced it by a medium-soft pressed Triangel-dud. The "pling" was much less, but still to be heard, and it felt only a bit softer. I also recognized at both Triangel-duds, that the spin-efficieny was a little worse than at my former player.

So I made the next test: I installed a dry pressed elkmaster --> "pling" was still existing and played like the medium-soft pressed Triangel-dud.

Next trial: Installed an unpressed selected Elkmaster: This combination is now nearly perfect. Plays medium, has nearly no "pling" and gives spin as i was used to my former player. And no mushrooming! This is the evidence that the WD700 is much more flexible in the front end than my former 12,2 mm shaft. But I want to have a slighty smoother sound, and I am thinking about two ways:

- 1st option is to make soft-pressed milkduds out of selected Elkmaster. I know this works well, but due to the pretty varying consistency of the Elkmaster the finally pressed duds my vary also in their consistency.

- Has anybody tried to make soft-pressed Triangel-milkduds? I am scetip a bit because the Triangel originally is a pretty hard tip, and does it give a good base to create soft milkduds??

- 2nd option is installing a multilayered tip, that is not a spin-catapult, but feels medium / medium-hard at the WD700. But here I am not sure what is the according multilayered tip, because I don't have much playing-experience with multilayered tips.

So I think about following multilayerd tips that might be well controllable T THE WD700 while feeling not too hard:

- tiger sniper
- tiger onxy
- Kamui S brown
- G2 M

I would be glad if anyone can share similar experience with an appropriate tip for a WD700.

By the way: With everyhing else of that Mezz cuestick I am very very happy. :-) Much cue for few money! ;-)



Thanks a lot
 
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The tip can affect CB speed, but not spin. Spin is determined by tip offset from CB center - same offset = same spin, no matter what tip.

pj
chgo
 
Hi,
without going into such technical argouments like you did, all I can say is that i use a tiger sniper on my wd 700: The sound is not clicky , it feels solid yet its very hard to miscue and it holds chalk very well, no mushroming either.... I would reccomend it to you !
I prefer it over the original moori m because the moori did not retain chalk at all ...
 
Ultraskin Medium

I have one of Tom Hays Ultraskin Layered meduim tips on one of my cues with a wd700 shaft, It plays incredible, no ping sound, good solid hit with great ball control, If anyone hasn't tried on of these tips, they should they are awesome, hope that helps
 
Hi all,

before a couple of days I purchased a new Mezz cuestick (AXI-K) with the WD700 and the wavy joint. This cuestick shall become my all day player, just a well working cue, nothing else. But I've got a small problem right now, concerning the right tip for this cuestick.

The Triangel-milkduds, that I used to make for my Cem-Player before, worked perfectly and gave me most consistency and reliability with a medium / mediumhard feeling. (Shaft diameter 12,2 mm, slightly conical taper.). My Cem-player is still my heart's favourite because of it's extraordinary feeling, but the deflection is a bit too high, and I don't want to change anything else in the moment at that cuestick.

At the WD700 was a Moori M installed, but the cuestick gave me much too much spin and thus it was hard to control. So I thought, OK, doesn't matter, and replaced the Moori by my favourite Triangel-milkdud (They are most consistent from tip to tip due to my procedure of soaking and pressing, this is like a fundamentation, very constant hardness and elasticity).

But I was totally astonished when I played with it. The grip and control was like I was used to, but it felt much harder like I have it on my former player. There was also a certain "pling" to be heared, like it is at hard tips.

My first thought was: OK, maybe not mounted well or maybe too hard for this cuestick, so I replaced it by a medium-soft pressed Triangel-dud. The "pling" was much less, but still to be heard, and it felt only a bit softer. I also recognized at both Triangel-duds, that the spin-efficieny was a little worse than at my former player.

So I made the next test: I installed a dry pressed elkmaster --> "pling" was still existing and played like the medium-soft pressed Triangel-dud.

Next trial: Installed an unpressed selected Elkmaster: This combination is now nearly perfect. Plays medium, has nearly no "pling" and gives spin as i was used to my former player. And no mushrooming! This is the evidence that the WD700 is much more flexible in the front end than my former 12,2 mm shaft. But I want to have a slighty smoother sound, and I am thinking about two ways:

- 1st option is to make soft-pressed milkduds out of selected Elkmaster. I know this works well, but due to the pretty varying consistency of the Elkmaster the finally pressed duds my vary also in their consistency.

- Has anybody tried to make soft-pressed Triangel-milkduds? I am scetip a bit because the Triangel originally is a pretty hard tip, and does it give a good base to create soft milkduds??

- 2nd option is installing a multilayered tip, that is not a spin-catapult, but feels medium / medium-hard at the WD700. But here I am not sure what is the according multilayered tip, because I don't have much playing-experience with multilayered tips.

So I think about following multilayerd tips that might be well controllable T THE WD700 while feeling not too hard:

- tiger sniper
- tiger onxy
- Kamui S brown
- G2 M

I would be glad if anyone can share similar experience with an appropriate tip for a WD700.

By the way: With everyhing else of that Mezz cuestick I am very very happy. :-) Much cue for few money! ;-)



Thanks a lot

I have the same shaft, I switched to a Kamui soft and I like it much better then the Morrie. Just as much of a firm him and good spin.
 
I usually like the adam franks milk duds as my favorite but just got a shaft with a tiger dynamite on it and it plays very similar. I would suggest giving it a try, I think they are only about $5. From what you described I think it may be what you are looking for.
 
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