WEIRD training aids for 8ball?

Solartje

Solartje

the Brunswick BUG bit me
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hiya, after a post about training your game, by potting the balls, eyes closed, i just caught myself thinking...

would pool computer games help in any way at all? (as i dont got the money to pay for a pooltable, and my club still is charging full price, i cant practice) so ive been playing some computer pool games and i was wondering if it helps in anyway at all.

personally, i think its good to learn running out paterns.. what do u think?
waste of time or any good?
 
waste of time. just my personal opinion. you dont get better at basketball by playing NBA Live. Different sport, same premise.
 
Njhustler1 said:
waste of time. just my personal opinion. you dont get better at basketball by playing NBA Live. Different sport, same premise.
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not even for running out paterns? :confused: thought id could be usefull. plan each ball from the start and try to do it. if i run out of position u might as well get the same problem irl, and learn from it...

curious to see how more people think of this
 
Solartje said:
not even for running out paterns? :confused: thought id could be usefull. plan each ball from the start and try to do it. if i run out of position u might as well get the same problem irl, and learn from it...

curious to see how more people think of this
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I think it can help to be looking at and studying table layouts.

Of course you need to get on a real table as well.

I played Saturday night after thinking more about planning. My game had lifted quite a bit. Even seemed to improve my potting as I was playing with a more decisive intention. I won 20-4 for the night, almost entirely aggressive runout play.

Runout percentage from the break was about 30% but about 60% were close to outs but for a sloppy positional shot at the end. (Had a very underweight cueball that was messing me up on some shots). This should improve with more games.

I am now sure with even better planning, table managment, and practice to tighten my positional shots that beating the 8-ball ghost from the break is quite achievable with continued thinking and playing.
 
Colin Colenso said:
Runout percentage from the break was about 30% but about 60% were close to outs but for a sloppy positional shot at the end. (Had a very underweight cueball that was messing me up on some shots). This should improve with more games.
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If you keep using those kinds of excuses, your game isn't going anywhere. If you are running out most of the balls and getting sloppy at the end, it's NOT because of the cueball. Quit lying to yourself lol
 
I agree!

LowEnglish said:
If you keep using those kinds of excuses, your game isn't going anywhere. If you are running out most of the balls and getting sloppy at the end, it's NOT because of the cueball. Quit lying to yourself lol
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I agree.

It is almost always a warped cue ball causing that problem, :D :D :D

Hu
 
Njhustler1 said:
waste of time. just my personal opinion. you dont get better at basketball by playing NBA Live. Different sport, same premise.
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Have you ever tried VP3?

When I was playing in the Internet Equal Offense tournaments, I was also playing a fair amount of VP. One night I ran 150-and-out in two consecutive games of VP. The next weekend I posted my best score and the second highest score in IEO history (just behind Don Feeney). I think there was a connection.

As for basketball, they did a study about shooting free throws. One group practiced free throws just by visualizing them -- no time on the court. The study found that the pure visualization group improved their percentages compared to people who had no practice.
 
Digression

I am simply amazed how posters end up digressing into
subjects comparing notes of this vs that aid, or mechanical
things, etc..

The answer is, and always has been to all of them ... use your brain.
Most students of Pool would be further ahead by taking a LOGIC
course, or reading the Art of War by Sun Tzu, than with all the
other training aids that are out there. If you think about Pool in
the right way to learn, you will learn, if you do not, you will not
learn .... simple, isn't it?
 
i agree snapshot. ok nothing beats real time playing pool ofcourse, and im sure efren reyes never played a computergame (mm not even sure of this). and u wont learn as much on a computer game, BUT. its better then nothing. what i usually do, is find different runout paterns, draw them down, check wich one is the easiest, and then just play the shots, looking at where i could go wrong etc.. i am confident its better then nothing, but again nothing beats the real pool club. im sure its helping me in someway...
 
I don't have VP3, but it would have to help. Keeping your mind on pool has merit. Whether or not you are playing a video game, or actually playing, you are keeping images in your head about pool. What Bob is talking about actually came out of a fantastic book called Psycho-Cybernetics, and directly relates to pool on more than just a few fronts.
 
maybe stupid but im gonna reply to my own treath....


as i was kinda short of money to do some pool training, i have been playing a pool game to study runout paterns, as i liked the 8ball chalanges so much. ive been doing it for a week, did some yesterday evening, watched a match of the magician, and then went to the club.

now before i used to think 3 balls ahaid (snooker habit) and never more, since the patern training i can see the full paterns and pritty easy. now result.

first game: 8ball break: 1 ball potted on break, runout
second game: 8 ball break: 1 ball potted on break, runout
third game: 8 ball break: 3 balls potted on break :p , missed a ball.(bad positional shot the shot before)
fourth game: 8 ball break; no ball potted on break, runout
All runouts done exactly how i had imagined them. i felt like the magician for a moment. i wasnt even in the zone or anything, as i just had started to play, no predrills to get used to the talbe or cloth AND i played with barcue's

now before i had NEVER ever done a 8ball runout. i used to 1 rack runout occasionally in straight pool, like 1 or 2 in 20 racks, but never in 8ball.

i feel my game went UP by SO much since im seeing the paterns and mainly since im THINKING of them ahead, not during playingtime. i feel like ive conquered a mountain and im not improving by a bit, but that i just managed to get into another level.

im SO happy, and it feels so powerfull to be able to , break, think, do it, and run out. really really pleased of my game, and i must say... using the computer to generate breaks and think of paterns was the main help.

conclusion: YES computer pool game DO help u.... well it did with me anyway, so why not u?
 
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