Went home 4 lunch and video'd a practice session

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PlynSets

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I'm going to edit up the video tonight and post it probably on friday or saturday (Tomorrow's the big day to the g/f's boobs so I think I'm going to be preoccupied). Should I leave it unedited (as in including the absolute stupid misses?) Or cut out the portions where it's just plain lack of focus or walking up and whacking the ball.

I'd like to post it for 2 reasons. To get some advice (if I'm lucky) from some of the instructors on here on mechanics, stance etc.. as well as I'm curious as to how the board would rate me on a A - D scale. (I know what I'm rated, but I've been playing so inconsistent latley I'm curious as to what I should be rated right now)

So there it is? Leave the shots or shorten the vids up to more just balls made?

DJ
 
PlynSets said:
I'm going to edit up the video tonight and post it probably on friday or saturday (Tomorrow's the big day to the g/f's boobs so I think I'm going to be preoccupied). Should I leave it unedited (as in including the absolute stupid misses?) Or cut out the portions where it's just plain lack of focus or walking up and whacking the ball.

I'd like to post it for 2 reasons. To get some advice (if I'm lucky) from some of the instructors on here on mechanics, stance etc.. as well as I'm curious as to how the board would rate me on a A - D scale. (I know what I'm rated, but I've been playing so inconsistent latley I'm curious as to what I should be rated right now)

So there it is? Leave the shots or shorten the vids up to more just balls made?

DJ
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If you want people to rate your speed, I would think you would want to leave the misses in.
 
Lets check out the whole real deal. Just curious to see what someone elses practice is like - no edit
 
Only reason I asked was becuase in practice I tend to miss alot of easier shots that I'd never miss in a game, as well I tend to fire in some shots that I'd never even try in a game.. LOL :D

I'll leave them in and just try to cut out racking time etc.. Becuase of online limitations.

Incidentally don't be poking fun at me talking to myself.. LOL (I didn't even know I did this until I watched the video. :D )

DJ
 
PlynSets said:
I'm going to edit up the video tonight and post it probably on friday or saturday (Tomorrow's the big day to the g/f's boobs so I think I'm going to be preoccupied). Should I leave it unedited (as in including the absolute stupid misses?) Or cut out the portions where it's just plain lack of focus or walking up and whacking the ball.

I'd like to post it for 2 reasons. To get some advice (if I'm lucky) from some of the instructors on here on mechanics, stance etc.. as well as I'm curious as to how the board would rate me on a A - D scale. (I know what I'm rated, but I've been playing so inconsistent latley I'm curious as to what I should be rated right now)

So there it is? Leave the shots or shorten the vids up to more just balls made?

DJ
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I don't care what "they" determine your ranking is...you still play as a B in the tourneys...:)

Actually, I wouldn't mind playing a few sets with you in the recording. You play better in that setting (as opposed to practicing by yourself), which should show your game more accurately.

Wanna race?
 
a_challenged said:
I don't care what "they" determine your ranking is...you still play as a B in the tourneys...:)

Actually, I wouldn't mind playing a few sets with you in the recording. You play better in that setting (as opposed to practicing by yourself), which should show your game more accurately.

Wanna race?
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You ever heard me say no?

RD
 
I think your speed can be rated by stroke action, body movement well enough.

Just edit to make it short and sweet with content, structured with a purpose...easy to watch & d/load, IMHO.
 
Colin Colenso said:
I think your speed can be rated by stroke action, body movement well enough.
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Now that's a very interesting comment. What happens if a person has a great stroke and moves their body well but doesn't bring home the bacon? Is there a case to be made for them trying to hide their speed?

Flex
 
Flex said:
Now that's a very interesting comment. What happens if a person has a great stroke and moves their body well but doesn't bring home the bacon? Is there a case to be made for them trying to hide their speed?

Flex
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To be honest when I'm guaging an "unknown" to size up to play, or when people ask me what the feel the persons speed is (for our the lil handicapped tournament that i play in) I guage on stroke, movement, bridge, and how "comfortable" they are with a cue (part of their body? Or carrying a big stick) not necesarrily by the balls they make. I find I'm pretty accurate with it..

Unfortunately for me though much like you said.. I'll be playing someone and not make 2 balls, then turn around and run a rack. I can only imagine they have to be thinking I'm laying down or doing something tricky when in fact my game is just all over the damn place.. :(

DJ
 
I'm working on an instructional dvd. I've got about 30 minutes of position shots, draw shots and other stuff. I ran a few racks of 6 ball and 9 ball. I break, take ball in hand, and explain what I'm going to do on each shot. I really need a remote.

I most definitely 100% play a whole lot better when that camera is rolling.
 
The Camera screws me up something fierce.. LOL I can gamble and pull it out even when the match looks hopeless.. But when the camera's rolling I put too much pressure on myself. Keep thinking "What will all the AZB'ers say?" :D Well not really but ya know what I mean. ;) :D


DJ
 
PlynSets said:
The Camera screws me up something fierce.. LOL I can gamble and pull it out even when the match looks hopeless.. But when the camera's rolling I put too much pressure on myself. Keep thinking "What will all the AZB'ers say?" :D Well not really but ya know what I mean. ;) :D


DJ
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Totally different situation but not long ago I played a fellow AZBer in a tourney. We had already talked and introduced ourselves earlier.
The guy was Jimmy M by the way.
What I could not believe was how bad I played and how it affected me more than any other person including Pros that I have played. I truely dont care how people here think I play. I have a good idea and have been around alot of pool. However that day I could not shake it.
He beat me pretty bad with me playing well below my average.

The whole tournament I was still thinking about it and ended up losing a match I had the best of.
Pool is definitely a mental game. Its amazing sometimes that as smart and advanced as humans are that we can not rationally put aside emotions at times.
 
Flex said:
Now that's a very interesting comment. What happens if a person has a great stroke and moves their body well but doesn't bring home the bacon? Is there a case to be made for them trying to hide their speed?

Flex
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There are exceptions to the rule, but generally it's pretty easy to see if a player has put in a lot of time just by their movements. There is often that sense of confidence in their movement, an absence of hesitation, a fluidity of movement....even if their stroke is not textbook.

But I've seen guys with lovely strokes who don't win much...they either crack under pressure or they just don't know what shots to choose. On the other hand I've seen players who flinch, twitch and have very ugly and inefficient strokes that are quite tough in the ring. They know their limits and they choose and execute shots within those limits that are pretty effective.

The best measure of a player would be by his average performances in leagues, tournies, match-ups etc. High runs and similar challenges are only indications. For example, if I play 14.1 cushion for 2 hours and my best high run is 15, then if I played another 4 hours I'd probably make a 20. Another 400 hours and by odds, without making any improvements, I'd probably fluke a 50 run at some stage.

Same with video. If the player shoots a lot of footage, he'll be able to select a sample that highlights the high-end of his play. Not that there's anything wrong with that:p
 
Colin Colenso said:
There are exceptions to the rule, but generally it's pretty easy to see if a player has put in a lot of time just by their movements. There is often that sense of confidence in their movement, an absence of hesitation, a fluidity of movement....even if their stroke is not textbook.

But I've seen guys with lovely strokes who don't win much...they either crack under pressure or they just don't know what shots to choose. On the other hand I've seen players who flinch, twitch and have very ugly and inefficient strokes that are quite tough in the ring. They know their limits and they choose and execute shots within those limits that are pretty effective.

The best measure of a player would be by his average performances in leagues, tournies, match-ups etc. High runs and similar challenges are only indications. For example, if I play 14.1 cushion for 2 hours and my best high run is 15, then if I played another 4 hours I'd probably make a 20. Another 400 hours and by odds, without making any improvements, I'd probably fluke a 50 run at some stage.

Same with video. If the player shoots a lot of footage, he'll be able to select a sample that highlights the high-end of his play. Not that there's anything wrong with that:p
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And on that note.. The Video is up.. LOL This video was the 1st video'd practice game yesterday night. I will say that later the camera kinda gave me the shakes a bit the next day when I came home from lunch.

Not to make excuses, but in the thread I have a couple for the upcoming videos.. This 1st one I played the rack pretty well I thought.

DJ
 
PlynSets said:
And on that note.. The Video is up.. LOL This video was the 1st video'd practice game yesterday night. I will say that later the camera kinda gave me the shakes a bit the next day when I came home from lunch.

Not to make excuses, but in the thread I have a couple for the upcoming videos.. This 1st one I played the rack pretty well I thought.

DJ
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where can I see the video?
 
Good out, well im no instructor or anything but I have a suggestion or two. One thing I see is that you are moving the cueball too much, making the out harder than it is. Like on the nine I wouldn't go all the way up and back, just go 1 rail for the corner. You got close to the rail a few times. Try to choose the position that allows for the most room for error. You made a few nice speed and position shots but there were easier paths. Like on the 1 ball I would have used some bottom left and went through the big hole between the 7 and 8. On the 5 I would have just rolled up and went for the opposite corner. You hit the 5 ball well but got very close to the 6, a little error and you are in mucho trouble. When you are off then easy runs will be very hard. You can definitely make the balls and you know where the cue is going, I would say just look for the best path. Just my 2 centavos. Of course maybe I'm wrong I don't know haha. Maybe Ill make a vid as well sounds like fun :) I am not sure that being that far sideways with your body is a good idea, maybe try to square up to the ball a little more. And try to not drop your elbow when you follow through. I am probably way off here..... I would say you are a high C low B? Kinda hard to tell from 2 racks :)
 
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