Call shot or call pocket - same thing. You are calling a specific ball in a specific pocket, how it gets there doesn’t matter, and this is the case for all call shot/pocket games.
What a tool!!!
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He probably wouldn't call it, but who knows? He did let Gray shoot out of order in that tournament last year.
technically speaking, you are supposed to call it (at least in the rules), but this can get absurd really quick. Was it obvious he was trying to pocket the 10 ball in the bottom left corner? I know he missed it, but it was an even less obvious shot than the combo Savannah took- we all know what the intended shot for both of them was and therefore you shouldn't call infractions on shots like this- it is common sense and common decency
I assume you are referring to your post #12, which is a long ways from offering an apology for accusing him of saying some very nasty things he did not say, and taking the 1 minute of time it would take you to to edit your original post, for the benefit of everyone else who has not kept up with this thread until now.
If I were Miss Easton, I’d suggest it would be appropriate for her on her Facebook page, to offer an apology for the statements her parents made to Mr. Hoang immediately following the match, if that indeed was her parents who made those statements. This would go a long ways to helping her put this entire incident to bed as a learning experience for her, as well as for her parents.
Nobody is calling every shot in a 10-ball tournament like this. If it's an obvious shot as probably 95% of them are (there's a definition for "obvious"), you don't have to say anything.
We knew that wasn’t gonna happen
It will still be her turn at the table?
That would be the rational assumption, but not unlike APA rules where players are required to mark their intended pocket for the 8 ball with a marker regardless of how obvious the intended pocket is, apparently what is clearly obvious to any pool player or referee is not the case even at the pro level. Really very sad, but I guess the rationale here is that it prevents possible controversies.
Agreed. I don't know this particular gentlemen, but I'm at the same tournament in Vegas. One match during the lag I hit my ball a microsecond after my opponent's had hit the far rail. He clearly ended up "winning" the lag, but insisted that we lag again because the ref told him the rules were to relag in that case. (I won the second lag to no complaints.)
I don't know where he was from, only that he was clearly not American. But some folks, and some cultures, just adhere to rules with no bad intent.
Unless anyone knows otherwise, we should assume the gentleman in this case was just playing by the rules, and the same rules he applies to himself. I agree with Stu that people who are upset should have an issue with the rules, not the person.
Well, if the agreed upon rules were the rules of the World Nit Association’s Nit Rules Committee and approved by the Nit Policy Board’s Subcommittee on Nit rules governing International Nit events, playing by those rules is a nit move.
Personality differences play a role. Rules mavens exist in different endeavors. What I especially love is the rules guy who is wrong on rules. That isn’t uncommon and not just in pool.
Just the way you describe the way your tournaments work sounds nitty to some ears. Yeah, that’s the way you play and it’s agreed on. If I were there playing I’d call a foul on myself. No biggie. I actually don’t have a problem with it. When in Rome as St. Ambrose advised St. Monica…
But I’d know I was playing with a bunch of nits
you should edit your original post, which had me and others believe hoang said the words that was in fact directed at him.
Chris in NC gave the correct answer so I won't repeat it. Call shot means ball and pocket.
Let's add that the pros are usually playing no called shot when they play 9ball, so this rule asks the players to go back and forth between rule sets, which leads to rules infractions. Standardizing the game is in everybody's best interest, but it seems that only Matchroom gets this.
Matchroom used the exact same rules at every one of its events in 2023. In 10ball, they've wavered from winner breaks to alternate break and from ten counts on the break to ten doesn't count on the break and from early ten balls allowed to 10ball last. They need to pick something and stick with it.
smiling_Hans
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I understand that and so does everyone who has ever played pool but yet we still are arguing about it. Therefore, just call the shot or pocket.
Fixed it for you
smiling_Hans
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That is correct.
We need a standardization of the rules since they have changed a lot since I've started playing. Now I have to ask the bartender what are the rules here. Some are not sure and some bartenders don't even know because they don't play pool. LOL
I know my pool room have a set of unwritten rules we all follow but when I go to another place, I tend to play within the rules. Till someone does something different, such as 8 ball, rather than go in the kitchen on scratch shots they get ball in hand. This is the only set of rule differences I know of. There should be no difference in any other game that I know of where rules differentiate from pool hall to pool hall.
This is trickling down to the local level because one tournament director is fond of one league while another is a fan of another.
One change I noticed is the alternating racks we're doing and it leads to a lot of confusion with some. Also, the rack your own or have your opponent rack it. It feels like everything is made up on the fly.
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smiling_Hans
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You forgot to put your full name and the address of the pool room you play out of.
Your math is as on point as your honesty and common sense
Having not called wouldn't that be an automatic turnover?