What are the rules to the Game Liability?

Chi2dxa

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Does anyone know the rules to the game called Liability? I know it is played on a snooker table but that is about all that I know about it.
 
It's played the same as snooker but with multiple players. Draw for the rotation and take it from there. Rotation is then changed at a predermined number of games.

Each point is worth so much and you are only liable for the points that are made by the person that follows you.

Say at two dollars a point, if he makes a red and the five then you owe him $12.

Normally you wait until you get a good scoring opportunity before taking any chance. One mistake could cost you plenty. Hence the name liability.

It's best when the weakest player follows you.
 
Chi2dxa said:
Does anyone know the rules to the game called Liability? I know it is played on a snooker table but that is about all that I know about it.

A LITTLE HISTORY ON THE LIABILITY GAME ON BIG BERTHA IN BELLFLOWER

The game I played in for years started at The Billiard Palace, owned by Verne Peterson, in Bellflower, Ca. Verne had rebuilt the old 6 x 12 snooker table & tightened the pockets for golf. Butch Van Syoc and his dad Brian, bought the room from Verne and kept the action going for years. The players all started playing liability snooker, pretty much to keep players from partnering up or doing business, which you could do in a normal snooker game. The big ring golf games got ruined by this some years ago. In liability, you are only responsible for yourself, so no two players could manipulate the game. The game has gotten up as high as $50/$100 a point over the years and as low as $1.00 apoint with the "B" players. They would have to give up the table if a bigger game got going. Many a champion has tried the game and gone broke because they couldn't adjust to the tight pockets and quirks of this particular table. In the late 80's and early 90's the table was in action almost 24 hours a day. When there wasn't a snooker game going they played golf. A four or five ball run was a big run on this lightening fast tight pocket table, and each pocket had a little quirk to it which was a huge advantage to a local player. The best players I saw on the table over the years were Denny Searcy and Jose Parica. Grady, Davenport and New York Blackie were not far behind. John Henderson
 
jrhendy said:
A LITTLE HISTORY ON THE LIABILITY GAME ON BIG BERTHA IN BELLFLOWER

The game I played in for years started at The Billiard Palace, owned by Verne Peterson, in Bellflower, Ca. Verne had rebuilt the old 6 x 12 snooker table & tightened the pockets for golf. Butch Van Syoc and his dad Brian, bought the room from Verne and kept the action going for years. The players all started playing liability snooker, pretty much to keep players from partnering up or doing business, which you could do in a normal snooker game. The big ring golf games got ruined by this some years ago. In liability, you are only responsible for yourself, so no two players could manipulate the game. The game has gotten up as high as $50/$100 a point over the years and as low as $1.00 apoint with the "B" players. They would have to give up the table if a bigger game got going. Many a champion has tried the game and gone broke because they couldn't adjust to the tight pockets and quirks of this particular table. In the late 80's and early 90's the table was in action almost 24 hours a day. When there wasn't a snooker game going they played golf. A four or five ball run was a big run on this lightening fast tight pocket table, and each pocket had a little quirk to it which was a huge advantage to a local player. The best players I saw on the table over the years were Denny Searcy and Jose Parica. Grady, Davenport and New York Blackie were not far behind. John Henderson

The game was also very popular in Dayton, Ohio where it is called
'Insurance' <guess that is some kind of inside joke>. Legend has it
there was a small room in the 60s where they played nothing else,
IIUC - 3 Golf(snooker) tables and not a single pool table.

It is the ultimate sucker bet, a weaker player goes from
having little chance, to absolutely NO chance to get hot and win.
But it takes longer to go broke - so suckers love it.

Back in the Dayton tourney days - mid-seventies - that same
Dennis Searcy busted the field playing $50/100 Payball on the
Insurance table at Forest Park - rumor was he won $27k over
a few days - quite a score at that time.

Jay would have been gone from Forest Park by then, but I suspect
he chased a few balls around that table - FWIW it was a
Centenial 5 x 10 with pockets about 2 1/8 plus the thickness of
a human hair

Dale
 
Ok, is Liability the same as Pay Ball? I had a conversation about this with Bill Stroud on rsb years ago, but I can't remember the rules for Pay Ball.
 
Pushout said:
Ok, is Liability the same as Pay Ball? I had a conversation about this with Bill Stroud on rsb years ago, but I can't remember the rules for Pay Ball.
Two different games completely.

Payball is done with six balls and shot in rotation. A value is set on all balls except the six ball which is worth double.

You get paid for each ball from everyone in the game. At $5 a ball if you ran the rack that's $35 from each player. $5 x 5=$25 plus $10 for the six= $35. With a six handed game and you get paid from the other five this is $175 per rack. This game highly favors the sharp shooters.
 
dabarbr said:
Two different games completely.

Payball is done with six balls and shot in rotation. A value is set on all balls except the six ball which is worth double.

You get paid for each ball from everyone in the game. At $5 a ball if you ran the rack that's $35 from each player. $5 x 5=$25 plus $10 for the six= $35. With a six handed game and you get paid from the other five this is $175 per rack. This game highly favors the sharp shooters.

Ah, yes!! That's how Bill described it, I remember now. Thanks!!
 
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