What effects do joints have on the way cues play?

By dampening vibrations or amplifying them, you cannot change the way a cue plays, only how it feels. The vibration is a PRODUCT of impact. By the time you feel a vibration, the impact has already occurred and any influence you might have had on the shot has passed.
 
Murray Tucker said:
Ahhh..........I just love it.

A forum full of cuemakers poo pooing stainless joints. Meanwhile "best playing cues" polls are being dominated by SS jointed cues.

By some of ya'lls writing I could deduce that a Honda Civic with a fart pipe should sound better than my Corvette with Borla exhaust. I mean the fart pipe does not dampen the harmonics as much as my Borlas right?
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Really???............. show me.


Kim
 
Civic = ramin wood 5 piece

'Vette = Rosewood full splice

I don't want my cue to play like a house cue, but I want that solid feel and feedback that they offer.

The joint is one place out of several that if not done correctly will result in a lack of feel and a numb hit.

A big part of a cue maker's rep comes from his ability to pay attention to all the details of construction that the player will never see.

I believe its possible for a cue to be perfectly constructed and still play so-so if the wood used is not good. This is why its a crap shoot to buy a cue without hitting it first, even from a great cue maker.

Play a few racks with a Lambros Ultra joint cue or a Starkey wood pin cue and see how much of a difference a joint can make.

Just my $.02.
 
Lexicologist71 said:
By the time you feel a vibration, the impact has already occurred and any influence you might have had on the shot has passed.
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Maybe you are right here, I don't know. But it does feed into your memory, muscle-memory and instincts, and therefore influences future shots. When you play with a cue that plays completely differently than what you are used to, it usually takes some time to adapt to it, if you can at all. But have you ever noticed that sometimes you shoot with a cue that plays completely differently than what you are used to, yet you adjust to it very quickly?

Lexicologist71 said:
By dampening vibrations or amplifying them, you cannot change the way a cue plays
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I will respectfully disagree. It may take time for a difference to manifest itself. You have to get used a new cue, or a cue that has been modified. But in the end, if your game improved, your game improved. I have experimented with various sized weight bolts in my cues recently to get the weight right. I noticed that the weights had a dampening effect, and in the end I chose the weight that made the cue play the best. This was a big surprise for me. I used to like light cues, then discovered heavier and more rear balanced was fine because I was gaining more shot making accuracy and better cue ball control due to the vibration being "better". One cue plays best at my usual favorite weight, and one played the best heavier than my usual favorite weight.

Fatz
 
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Lexicologist71 said:
By dampening vibrations or amplifying them, you cannot change the way a cue plays, only how it feels. The vibration is a PRODUCT of impact. By the time you feel a vibration, the impact has already occurred and any influence you might have had on the shot has passed.
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If the cue feels dead, then you have no feel.:wink:
You won't know if you punched the ball dead center or offside or below until you see the cueball react after collision with the ob.
 
I really don't want to search each thread on the subject but they all are similar. You always have Gus, Barry, Searing, Schon and Scruggs in pretty much every top 10. These are (were) pretty much custom ordered cues and most have SS joints (except Schon).

Now Lambros and SouthWest are always near the top also but they don't have joint options.

Don't get me wrong. I like and make cues with flat faced joints. I have nothing against them. However appox. 50% of the orders I get are for stainless, 25% piloted ivory or other material and 25% flat.



whammo57 said:
Really???............. show me.


Kim
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