What "if" Florian Venom Kohler decided to compete at 8,9,10 Ball?

Interesting assessment. You don't think he could hang with SVB, Alex, and the rest? We need an exhibition match, to test the waters.

I'll play him some ! I'm not joking and I'm 50 years old and don't practice/ play for a month at a time! Let's get a side pot going and I'll go play him some around Memphis area... I'm in Texas now but headed east soon so we can set it up in Tennessee somewhere. Tight Diamond 9 or 10 footer ! Yall believe in him let's get action going I'm a 645 Fargo rating and a believer in myself ! I'll take all side action myself . My name is Tony Barrington/ a nobody and stake myself! PM me or do it here I don't care but I think I will drill his A _ _ !!!!!!
 
I've played him a few times.

As most know, he is one of the best alive at artistic pool but, IMO, he needs to stick with that.

US Amateur Champion? I think not. Not even close.

I know people that can masse the hell out of a ball, jump balls like no tomorrow, set up gaff shots....etc...etc... but, cant play dead.

Then again, I know people that "play" very, very strong that cant hang with even the easiest trick shot artist.

You still around Alabama bud I'm headed east Thursday next week gonna make some stops on wat to Charlotte my son graduated two days ago so I'm headed back east guys and ready to play some pool now . It's been a long 18 years who is 1st and who is 50th don't wanna leave anyone out ! Hope yall been practicing all these years while I've been raising kids ! It's my time now! PM me !!!!!!!
 
There are teams they could beat.

Are you serious? You really think the Globetrotters could beat some NBA teams? I am sure those guys would be taking a pay cut by playing in the NBA, but I figured they would try it, if they had any chance in the league.

This kind of reminds me of hearing people say that Bama, Clemson, etc could beat the worst NFL team.

I personally did not know how Venom played “regular” pool, but I would have bet a lot that he was not close to pro level. He is a phenomenal trick shot artist, but that is a different animal then professional 8, 9, and 10 ball. Good luck to him if he ever decides to give it a go.
 
There are teams they could beat.

That’s really out of touch. The worst NBA team is many miles better than any Harlem Globetrotters team ever. Even when Wilt was with them.

I know you’re not purposefully trolling. Just be aware that it reads like it.


Freddie <~~~ welcome to the world
 
Why hasn't anyone mentioned yet that the cues for trick shots are probably set up differently than a regular playing cue. Tips, ferrules, contours, and weight are different from a regular cue, from what I've heard and read. It is how they can move the cue ball around so easily. Those "trick" cues probably aren't that great for playing a game of rotation with.

Maniac (has a Fargo rate around the same as Florian's for cryin' out loud)
 
The BIG ROOSTA is crowing lmao :D:D!
There's your action 9Ball Fan :thumbup:. Gypsy guy got no chance :eek:.

Since your new here, I assume you're new to pool as well. Florian has been well known for yrs now. Have you ever heard of him beating anyone in a match, exhibition, or gambling session?? Probably not. As mentioned some can and have crossed over fairly well. Massey, Willie, Sayginer, etc.. Although Masseys game fell off imo when he started all the trick stuff. Still played good, and competes wherever he goes, but he never again played like before he started all the trick shots.
If monster stroke, and crazy shit, meant anything, Larry Nevel would be at the top, but that ain't the case.
You lose the finesse and precision needed for pocketing balls and playing position, when you don't do it day in and day out.
The need to make no mistakes, because 1, could cost you the match, and this is how you eat, isn't there for Venom.
Also, the mental game isn't there for Florian imo. He spends his time having fun, entertaining, etc...
His brain isn't on the "I hope I destroy you, and shoot your nuts off so bad you quit pool forever" mentally that top pros have.
2 different worlds. Like Lamonze vs NHRA Top Fuel.

Have you ever heard of Semih Sayginer? Check him out too, he does some crazy shit with billiard balls, and is/has been a top billiard player.

https://youtu.be/DR8qKdmn0Os
 
sayginer is a world champion of 3 cushion, one yr in the early 2000`s
always a top world player in world level 3c

also has junior straight rail titles as a young man in turkey

sayginer>florian
 
sayginer is a world champion of 3 cushion, one yr in the early 2000`s
always a top world player in world level 3c

also has junior straight rail titles as a young man in turkey

sayginer>florian

I was gonna say WC but I wasn't 100% positive, and didn't wanna take 10 sec to google it :D.
People like that At Large guy will be setting yo ass straight quick when you get it wrong :thumbup::thumbup:
 
I was gonna say WC but I wasn't 100% positive, and didn't wanna take 10 sec to google it :D.
People like that At Large guy will be setting yo ass straight quick when you get it wrong :thumbup::thumbup:

in 2003 he won against the ultra elite Filippos Kasidokostas
it says he even has a european title as well in addition to his several turkish 3c titles


the mans as decorated as his trick show
highly charasmatic, a motivational speaker and even a singer when he had to step away from the game for several yrs

has placed 4th or 3rd in 2 world championships since his return in 2015 and placed high in several world cups as well
 
Florian vs SVB, Race to 21, 10 Ball, on a 9' or 10' Diamond.

If SVB doesn't win by more than 3 racks, then Florian makes his point either way.

Or substitute Alex, Jason, or whoever for SVB. If they can't beat Florian by more than 3, in a race to 21; he deserves to be in the conversation.
 
You still around Alabama bud I'm headed east Thursday next week gonna make some stops on wat to Charlotte my son graduated two days ago so I'm headed back east guys and ready to play some pool now . It's been a long 18 years who is 1st and who is 50th don't wanna leave anyone out ! Hope yall been practicing all these years while I've been raising kids ! It's my time now! PM me !!!!!!!

Yes Sir. I seldom leave my house.

My wife informed me just yesterday that I will be taking her to Huntsville, Alabama for three days around the end of June.

I'll PM you the details after I find out.

If your gonna be within driving distance maybe we can play something cheap.

Congrats and have a good one,

Jeff
 
Florian vs SVB, Race to 21, 10 Ball, on a 9' or 10' Diamond.

If SVB doesn't win by more than 3 racks, then Florian makes his point either way.

Or substitute Alex, Jason, or whoever for SVB. If they can't beat Florian by more than 3, in a race to 21; he deserves to be in the conversation.

SVB, Alex, or Jason would destroy him.

There is no way he would even be in the game.

Keep on dreaming.
 
SVB, Alex, or Jason would destroy him.

There is no way he would even be in the game.

Keep on dreaming.

I think Florian would say the same thing.
...he’s got his niche in the pool world....and he handles it well.
 
Florian vs SVB, Race to 21, 10 Ball, on a 9' or 10' Diamond.

If SVB doesn't win by more than 3 racks, then Florian makes his point either way.

Or substitute Alex, Jason, or whoever for SVB. If they can't beat Florian by more than 3, in a race to 21; he deserves to be in the conversation.

Your either:

Extremely inexperienced in pool in general
Trolling

Or

Completely stupid

I'm out of this thread. I'll let the others:

Educate you in case your not trolling or waste their time if you are.

Your not getting off to a good start.
 
Are you serious? You really think the Globetrotters could beat some NBA teams? I am sure those guys would be taking a pay cut by playing in the NBA, but I figured they would try it, if they had any chance in the league.

This kind of reminds me of hearing people say that Bama, Clemson, etc could beat the worst NFL team.

I personally did not know how Venom played “regular” pool, but I would have bet a lot that he was not close to pro level. He is a phenomenal trick shot artist, but that is a different animal then professional 8, 9, and 10 ball. Good luck to him if he ever decides to give it a go.
The Harlem Rens beat the Celtics, won 88 straight compared to the Celtics 44 straight in the World Basketball League, won the Championship in 1932-33, and John Wooden said they played The best Team Basketball he had ever seen!
 
The Harlem Rens beat the Celtics, won 88 straight compared to the Celtics 44 straight in the World Basketball League, won the Championship in 1932-33, and John Wooden said they played The best Team Basketball he had ever seen!


Hey Lefty:

I'm pretty sure they were talking about the globetrotters, not the rens.

Unless I'm mistaken, they are not one-and-the-same.

If I'm correct, what does your comment have to do with the fact that the globetrotters wouldn't stood a chance?

Educate me!
 
Your either:

Extremely inexperienced in pool in general
Trolling

Or

Completely stupid

I'm out of this thread. I'll let the others:

Educate you in case your not trolling or waste their time if you are.

Your not getting off to a good start.


You're, not Your; within that specific context.

I respect your opinion on this subject. I am not a pool expert, by any means. I am just a poor old soul who wishes he would have had a table at home all his life. I've seen guys who took advantage of that, and they were calling 4 & 5 rail banks on me; and making those suckers too. Some Efren looking mess.
 
Globetrotters bas

No problem. The Globetrotters played straight-up Basketball at their outset. They defeated the Chicago Bruins to capture the prestigious World Professional Basketball Tournament in 1940, after winning it the previous year. They didn’t incorporate ball tricks and dribbling exhibitions until the late 1930’s. In 1948, the Globetrotters beat the Minneapolis Lakers, champions of the National Basketball League, the precursor of the NBA. The following year, they beat the Lakers again! You’re welcome. The first Black NBA players(Earl Lloyd and Chuck Cooper) we’re both Globetrotters, and beat the Celtics when Joe Lapchick was a Star Center, and who later drafted the first Black Player,Sweetwater Clifton, when Lapchick became the Knicks Head Coach.
 
No problem. The Globetrotters played straight-up Basketball at their outset. They defeated the Chicago Bruins to capture the prestigious World Professional Basketball Tournament in 1940, after winning it the previous year. They didn’t incorporate ball tricks and dribbling exhibitions until the late 1930’s. In 1948, the Globetrotters beat the Minneapolis Lakers, champions of the National Basketball League, the precursor of the NBA. The following year, they beat the Lakers again! You’re welcome. The first Black NBA players(Earl Lloyd and Chuck Cooper) we’re both Globetrotters, and beat the Celtics when Joe Lapchick was a Star Center, and who later drafted the first Black Player,Sweetwater Clifton, when Lapchick became the Knicks Head Coach.

Good info. I guess most alive today would only know that from reading it or hearing it from someone else. Either way, its interesting.

All of my comments were about the globetrotters much later. I saw them several times in the 70's and 80's and they were mist definitely entertaining but, they was no pro caliber team at that point.

During the times you speak of, I will take your word as I'm not much into doing that much research about basketball because of an example to another subject.

Again, very interesting and it actually makes sense.

Have a good one Sir,

Jeff
 
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