It looks to me the market is changing price wise. It looks like now that the centennial and anniversary tables are getting out of site, people are wanting gold crowns. Makes sense to me. I have been a collector of vintage guitars and amps for 30 years or better. I have seen things become collectable that I would not want because other things were unattainable. I can't and don't want to go to Canada or some place far off to buy a table. People are starting to learn what they have and that it is worth more now.
what is a gold crown 1 worth
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I would have to say that's a perception at best. GC'S are being sold used today under the name of Gold Crown, and not really at true value. I can't remember the last time I got my hands on one that was fully intact, meaning matching in parts, or not fully abused and worn out, and pretty much any GC that has been in commercial use fits that bill. Worn out is worn out in my book, and carries very little value of what the table at one time use to be, because.at the time of value, when Brunswick first sold the tables, they were all matching parts, and not stapled to the point of wormwood and still expecting to install cloth using 1/2" staples in place of 1/4" staples because they no longer hold the cloth on the bottom of the rails.
I'm in the market to buy one in the LA area....
Would matching parts and number of staple holes be two of the most important things to look out for?
I'd look for cracks in the slate, but anything specific to look for other than that in the slate?
If it has a ball return, are there things to look out for specific to that?
Just wondering what the red flags would be for a GC.
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Matching part numbers and general condition of the bottom of the rails, because that speaks a lot for the rest of the condition of the rails.
Great to know.....thanks!
You can however include a stipulation in the buying of the table that if it's a Frankenstein pool table. ...you have a right to back out of the sale, or discount the price accordingly.
Yes, I have already stated that to the man about this table. If it is a parts table or a wornout pool hall table i am out of the deal. And he also says that the table has slate. He did not know that these tables most likely had a product call brunstone or bluestone. He says he believes it to be slate.
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If you haven't already done so, download a copy of the GCI installation manual and study all the parts, fasteners, etc. before viewing the table. A lot can be learned about a GC simply by being familiar with its assembly and component parts.
The reason he says it's slate is because it's heavy, hard....and so there, it must be slate....because he don't know the difference between slate and brunstone.
Sloped pocket shelves are the first giveaway to brunstone as slate is cut straight down in the pocket shelfs.
Thanks rkc that's the kind of info we need to be informed for a purchase. Thank you so much.
If a Gold Crown had slate or Brunstone it would not affect my purchase decision or what I feel the value of the table is. My GC is Brunstone yet everyone calls it slate.
I agree, I have played on lots of GC's some probably slate, some probably brunstone, bluestone, brownstone, who knows. It would not deter me in the slightest from buying.
I don't even know what my GC surface is...
GC1 sold in 1969.
Ian
I have a Centennial with sloped pockets and is has stickers on bottom that say slate. I'll get pics next time I am in shop.
That could very well be Pat, Brunswick still had slates on hand from their quarries from before they shut them down for the war effort, but it has to be at minimum, one of the earliest Centennials for Brunswick to have used their own slate. But they didn't have any left by the 50s.
No centennial or anniversary I've ever worked on had anything but brunstone.
This I promise you is slate with sloped pockets. Got it from a gentleman who had it for the last fifty years in his basement. Not a ding or scratch on the metal.
Again I am not trying to be a dick. But where do you get the info that no slate was had after 1950? Did someone tell you or did you read it somewhere. I am very curious in the history of these tables. Maybe Mr Bond will chime in. He has a ton of info at his disposal.
le911;5514363]Again I am not trying to be a dick. But where do you get the info that no slate was had after 1950? Did someone tell you or did you read it somewhere. I am very curious in the history of these tables. Maybe Mr Bond will chime in. He has a ton of info at his disposal.[/QUOTE]
Because all of the later Cenntennials, Anniversaries, Sport kings, GC 1's, 2's and early 3's came with Brunstone. Other table manufacturers that bought from Brunswick also used Brunstone like AMF, Saunier Willham and others.
Because all of the later Cenntennials, Anniversaries, Sport kings, GC 1's, 2's and early 3's came with Brunstone. Other table manufacturers that bought from Brunswick also used Brunstone like AMF, Saunier Willham and others.