What is Hot in Custom Cues

Jack Madden

Jack Madden

John Madden Cues
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Thought maybe a New Thread on what is "Hot" in custom cues would be appropriate instead of adding to the other. So ------

WRAPLESS seem to be getting to be the rage lately - I have done handles in Ebony, Purple Heart, Birdseye, Cocobolo, and Angico (and probably something else too) within the last 6 months. What to you think?

Jack
www.johnmaddencues.com
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Jack Madden said:
Thought maybe a New Thread on what is "Hot" in custom cues would be appropriate instead of adding to the other. So ------

WRAPLESS seem to be getting to be the rage lately - I have done handles in Ebony, Purple Heart, Birdseye, Cocobolo, and Angico (and probably something else too) within the last 6 months. What to you think?

Jack
www.johnmaddencues.com
voting member of The American Cuemakers Association
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Nice looking cues, Jack. Not much looks sweeter on a cue to me than a really nice piece of birdseye as the handle, especially when the rest of the cue complements it so well. I think those are hot......
 
the only wrapless cues that makes sense to me(and done well) are the ones done with butterflys. butterflies tend to consider, and lend themselves better to, THE WHOLE cue design. it is one complete design.

standard points with wrapless grips look incomplete. one,,,because we're used to seeing wraps, and two,,,the points end at the rings and so the design doesn't flow through the cue/grip. it is THREE designs(nose/grip/butt)

i think the only wrapless that works are the ones with no(points/inlays) nose or butt work.
 
bruin70 said:
i think the only wrapless that works are the ones with no(points/inlays) nose or butt work.
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Agreed unless you do points in the same wood as the handle. Say a birdseye forearm with purple heart points, purple heart handle, birdseye butt sleeve with purple heart points.

Jack
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then i'd run the design THROUGH the grip rather than using a seperate piece of wood.
 
I would say, that having multiply veneers, and inlays, And wrapless cues are very popular.

And i dont wanna say this as a whole, but simple design cues too. I see alot of fancy cues that have tons of work, done to them, and yes they are HOT for collectors.

But to the average joe, i think the more simple style cue is comming around, that is like birdseye, or cocobolo, or any type of rare woods too. And the Southwest type of cue design.

Oh and leather wraps, or any type of snake skin or lizard wraps are becomming very hot.


dave
 
Types of real abalone shell inlays are hot. They have depth and multicolor beauty.

Martin


Jack Madden said:
Thought maybe a New Thread on what is "Hot" in custom cues would be appropriate instead of adding to the other. So ------

WRAPLESS seem to be getting to be the rage lately - I have done handles in Ebony, Purple Heart, Birdseye, Cocobolo, and Angico (and probably something else too) within the last 6 months. What to you think?

Jack
www.johnmaddencues.com
voting member of The American Cuemakers Association
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Though i have always thought that scrimshaw is hot it seems to becoming really hot at the moment.
 
I think

that wrapless cues have their place, and many players prefer
a wrapless, maybe because of them starting with house cues.
For a custom cue, I think the best wrapless cues are the ones
that look like they are a wrapped cue from a slight distance, but
really aren't. The imagination of the cuemaker and the blend of
woods he uses, to me, really make the difference whether it is
a 'work of art' or a 'ho hum' cue.

For a playing cue, I had always preferred wrapped cues until I saw
a wrapless cue made by Bob Owen of Shurtz's custom cues, and
he made it his playing cue. It was really quite striking in design.
It kind of open my mind up a little towards wrapless cues.

Just curious, and I have never heard of it before, but has anyone
ever made a cue with a removable wrap, so that they could have
either way, wrapped or unwrapped?
 
I think the uni loc radial pin is also becoming more and more popular. It is a very solid feel and easy to go together.

I think wrapless cues are also becoming more popular. People seem to be leaning towards curly or birdseye maple handles with purpleheart points or forearm. Also other woods go well with a wrapless design. Jack Kompan makes the best example of this style of cue as this is all he makes...wrapless cues with exotic woods for the handle or forearm/butt.

I think its pretty safe to say that the uni-loc quick release is going to the way side, other than in jump cue joints.

Shorty
 
All about the wood Baby :D

Snakewood and lacewood spring to mind as being great possibilities.

I am doing a remodel on my house and we are doing the main floor in Brazillian teak.

Some of the pieces are absolutely stunning. High figure and superb grain. Looks like flames.

I am going to be trying some things with choice pieces I am pulling from the 1400 square feet I have :)
 
Shorty said:
I think the uni loc radial pin is also becoming more and more popular. It is a very solid feel and easy to go together.

I think wrapless cues are also becoming more popular. People seem to be leaning towards curly or birdseye maple handles with purpleheart points or forearm. Also other woods go well with a wrapless design. Jack Kompan makes the best example of this style of cue as this is all he makes...wrapless cues with exotic woods for the handle or forearm/butt.

I think its pretty safe to say that the uni-loc quick release is going to the way side, other than in jump cue joints.

Shorty
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Damn it Shorty - I was planning to sell another uni-loc quick release cue on ebay - now you have ruined my sales!!!! (I might sue)
 
runscott said:
Damn it Shorty - I was planning to sell another uni-loc quick release cue on ebay - now you have ruined my sales!!!! (I might sue)
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Remind me to laugh when I get everyone's foot outta my fourteen inch backside.

Shorty
 
Jack Madden said:
Thought maybe a New Thread on what is "Hot" in custom cues would be appropriate instead of adding to the other. So ------

WRAPLESS seem to be getting to be the rage lately - I have done handles in Ebony, Purple Heart, Birdseye, Cocobolo, and Angico (and probably something else too) within the last 6 months. What to you think?

Jack
www.johnmaddencues.com
voting member of The American Cuemakers Association
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Hey jack. I thingk that wrapless cues are getting realy popular and also seems like leather wraps and ex. skins are getting realy popular. Also seems like ever one loves a big pin like a 3/8 11 southwest style and a radial pin.I collect and play with cues with no wrap my cues are all birdseye maple or flamed maple with fancey rings and rosewood handles. I love the rosewood handles seems that with the maple they just have a realy great live hit.
 
I have seen lot's of burls in cues lately, yet have always been told by people that know their woods that burl is actually a pretty unstable wood, and probably not a very good hitting wood. I've never hit with a cue with lot's of burl in the forearm, but I sure like the way burl looks with fiddleback maple and ivory.
What's not hot in my book? I think scrimshaw in a cue looks good if it's in a display case, but on a table? As about as tacky as one of those painted cues. You know, the ones with painted dragons or whatever?
dave
 
Shorty said:
Remind me to laugh when I get everyone's foot outta my fourteen inch backside.

Shorty
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If you laugh hard enough, it might blow all those feet right out!

Regarding wrapless cues, I think Schon's STL 21 looks real nice - the pic on Seybert's "lowering price" page is clearer than the Schon page.
 
Multi Layer of Recut points REPLACING Traditional Veneered Points... IMO
 
Shorty said:
I think the uni loc radial pin is also becoming more and more popular. It is a very solid feel and easy to go together.

I think wrapless cues are also becoming more popular. People seem to be leaning towards curly or birdseye maple handles with purpleheart points or forearm. Also other woods go well with a wrapless design. Jack Kompan makes the best example of this style of cue as this is all he makes...wrapless cues with exotic woods for the handle or forearm/butt.

I think its pretty safe to say that the uni-loc quick release is going to the way side, other than in jump cue joints.

Shorty
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I have a jack kompan for sale and it is a beautiful wrapless cue. I will let it go for 350 obo. Check out my post.
 
Hot

I agree Snakewood is definatly hot, also in my opinion I think the cues with the small white butt caps are hot instead of the big ones.

Wrapless cues are hot, and since i have not sent him the pics yet here is DDUBS9 Jerry Oliver, this cue has a bunch of work in the handle, pics will not do it justis he can explain more.
 

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