What is it with poolplayers lately?

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This most recent thread about Mark Cantril was a total washjob against him.

Justabanger like a lot of the other players jump up and post something immediately, I want my $25 back (expletive expletive) (if that was the case).

Keep posting all you want, it's your right, but DON'T ever come on to the forums and wonder why pool is going in the crapper when guys like Mark say screw it I'm done with the way I'm treated.

And that is what is going to happen. People have done it to Barry, Mark, even Justin and Big Truck. When it happens and you don't ever get to see any pro quality pool, come back to these ridiculous threads about $25.

Is $25 a big deal, ya, it's money you paid for a service, but if you were relying on that $25 to pay a heat bill or another bill, then you shouldn't have bought it in the first place. If it's that you weren't replied to on "your" timetable, then you can't fault anyone but bureaucracy and well your tone if you actually said F*** in an email to Mark.

UStream, Paypal, are there bigger organizations with more red-tape, you know how they operate, you pay us now for what you want if we mess up you wait 60 days. Mark wasn't lying about that, many people can attest to that.

You've now burned a bridge with Mark, made yourself look pretty bad in the forum, and probably given Mark a second guess on if this is even worth it.

Should have just kept it quiet, apologized for the tone of the email and asked how it could be worked out.
 
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j.k. man, I understand exactly what you are saying. I have both persepectives on it because I've been a streamer and a watcher of PPV events.

I've had some issues with recording the matches where people have wanted to see them afterwards or see themselves later and I had difficulty with it. Technical difficulties are just a part of doing streaming. When we have millions of dollars in doing streaming, we can assure perfection, hell when we have even tens of thousands of dollars in it, we can assure perfection, when we are losing money to bring you live pool, it's going to be difficult...

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I will be the first to support pool player's right to complain about anything pool related. I think it is just as big a part of being a pool player as knowing which ball to hit first in a rotation game.

This is a forum for discussions about pool related matters. I guess PPV Streams are pool related. Customer satisfaction is pool related and certainly showing your a$$ is pool related.

Like most things is life, 80% is BS, but you have to wade through it to get to the 20% of 'crème dela Crème'
 
This most recent thread about Mark Cantril was a total washjob against him.

Justabanger like a lot of the other players jump up and post something immediately, I want my $25 back (expletive expletive) (if that was the case).

Keep posting all you want, it's your right, but DON'T ever come on to the forums and wonder why pool is going in the crapper when guys like Mark say screw it I'm done with the way I'm treated.

And that is what is going to happen. People have done it to Barry, Mark, even Justin and Big Truck. When it happens and you don't ever get to see any pro quality pool, come back to these ridiculous threads about $25.

Is $25 a big deal, ya, it's money you paid for a service, but if you were relying on that $25 to pay a heat bill or another bill, then you shouldn't have bought it in the first place. If it's that you weren't replied to on "your" timetable, then you can't fault anyone but bureaucracy and well your tone if you actually said F*** in an email to Mark.

UStream, Paypal, are there bigger organizations with more red-tape, you know how they operate, you pay us now for what you want if we mess up you wait 60 days. Mark wasn't lying about that, many people can attest to that.

You've now burned a bridge with Mark, made yourself look pretty bad in the forum, and probably given Mark a second guess on if this is even worth it.

Should have just kept it quiet, apologized for the tone of the email and asked how it could be worked out.

Well said! Streaming pool is new and the people aren't getting rich doing it. I can't believe the nerve of these idiots asking for $55 in dvd's since they didn't get the $25 stream. Like they didn't lose enough money already on this. Just a bunch of nits always wanting perfection for the lowest price possible.
 
Some people will never be happy no matter what you do for them, that's just life. I have known Mark Cantrill for quite a while now, I consider him a good friend, and a man of integrity. Mark is the kind of person that goes out of his way to make things right and he doesn't rest until things are settled. The people that know Mark or have met Mark know he's exactly how I just described him.

That being said, I'm pretty sure that none of this banter will ever sway Mark from continuing to do what he does. If it does, I will drive the 8 hours to kick his ass back into shape.

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I'm not completely clear on the situation and I doubt the OP is either so I don't think it would be fair to judge justabanger for voicing his frustrations. Sure if his feed wasn't good and he immediately went off and cursed at the feed provider then I would understand but apparently he has already waited two months. He has tried to contact the feed provider many times. What is the limit on how long or how much effort should be used before you are "allowed" to complain? Should he suck it up and take his $25 as a loss just because this other guy is trying to promote pool and we're concerned that they may no longer support the industry? Providing a quality product and great customer service is not limited to pool. If the feed provider produced a bad feed for any industry you would hear a lot of people wanting their money back. Just because the technology is new to the industry doesn't mean that the consumer should just eat the loss.

DVDs have high production costs but relatively low incremental costs in producing more DVDs. I personally would rather provide a DVD to dissatisfied consumers than refunding them their money. It would most likely cost less, but I may be wrong here.

I don't know who's right and wrong in this situation, I just don't feel the need to censor or instill fear in anyone who may want to voice their dissatisfaction on this forum.
 
I'd like to see the title of this thread renamed to... What is it with people today.

you get all sorts of idiots in the world today, they aren't exclusive to the pool world.

Just sayn....
 
I'd like to change the title of the thread, but we are in a pool forum and I hear pool players complaining about these things.



I'd like to see the title of this thread renamed to... What is it with people today.

you get all sorts of idiots in the world today, they aren't exclusive to the pool world.

Just sayn....
 
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