What is the most powerful shot?

[dorabelle]

Its all in your wrist. Try placing the tip of your cue only about 2 inches away fro the object ball and don't move your elbow, shoot only with your wrist. When you get a feel for it, use your normal stroke and add a bunch of wrist. Tons of power.

If your bridge is only a few inches away from your cue ball, its gonna improve accuracy too.

 

[twal]

Haha I'm not planning to use power shots every time xD But I want to learn maximum power, mostly for breaking and here and there in regular game. But in situations like that, I don't really need a lot of accuracy, and I'm willing to sacrifice it for extra power. It doesn't really matter where the CB will stop, or where any other ball will end up. Is there some kind of guide or tutorial about hitting the CB as hard as possible, without thinking about any positioning and/or consequences?

As just said... It is all in your wrist, or shall i say a lose wrist.
I had to get some lessons to help me figure it out for myself.

 

[RRfireblade]

RAM shot , hands down.

 

[Keith Jawahir]

It always matters.

You have a odd view of what makes a good player.

Not odd, more like a beginner's view. Barbox warrior, maybe?

 

[Push&Pool]

RAM shot , hands down.

From the description I read, it should look something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kkjopqJhZE

Maybe I'm not looking at it the right way, but I think it somehow lacks the "consistent and reliable" part It does look cool if you manage to hit it, though...

Not odd, more like a beginner's view. Barbox warrior, maybe?

A veteran barbox warrior and proud for it! :grin: I chose my signature(s) for a reason.

 

[Dudley]

If you want to develop a powerful stroke you need to develop an accurate stroke. The two don't exist without each other.

The arm adds power to the shot the hand controls where the tip contacts the cue ball.

The only difference between stop cue and power draw is where the cue tip contacts the cue ball. There is no magic stroke for draw or follow.

The harder you hit the ball the more action you will get -- If you are able to consistently hit the correct spot on the cue ball.

It's not complicated.. but it takes practice

Dudley

 

[Push&Pool]

If you want to develop a powerful stroke you need to develop an accurate stroke. The two don't exist without each other.

The arm adds power to the shot the hand controls where the tip contacts the cue ball.

The only difference between stop cue and power draw is where the cue tip contacts the cue ball. There is no magic stroke for draw or follow.

The harder you hit the ball the more action you will get -- If you are able to consistently hit the correct spot on the cue ball.

It's not complicated.. but it takes practice

Dudley

Thanks, I'll try it out :wink:

 

[Cdryden]

Haha I'm not planning to use power shots every time xD But I want to learn maximum power, mostly for breaking and here and there in regular game. But in situations like that, I don't really need a lot of accuracy, and I'm willing to sacrifice it for extra power. It doesn't really matter where the CB will stop, or where any other ball will end up. Is there some kind of guide or tutorial about hitting the CB as hard as possible, without thinking about any positioning and/or consequences?

I think as you gain in experience you will learn that even the break, a good break, requires accuracy. Sure you can break the balls good without being accurate, just getting lucky. But to have a good consistent break you NEED accuracy.

It always matters.

 

[Banks]

From the description I read, it should look something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kkjopqJhZE

Maybe I'm not looking at it the right way, but I think it somehow lacks the "consistent and reliable" part It does look cool if you manage to hit it, though...



A veteran barbox warrior and proud for it! :grin: I chose my signature(s) for a reason.

Have you ever considered doing things the right way?

You don't have to look like you have a mental disability to be able to break well.

 

[TheNewSharkster]

I just wanna know... What's the best technique out there which can apply the most powerful, most devastating stroke to the cue ball? Precision really doesn't matter. The only features I'm looking for are highest possible power with little chances of missing the CB while shooting. I can't wait to use a weapon like that, it could finally get me back in my winning streak :smile:

P.S. I'm looking for a reliable shot, not some equivalent to Happy Gilmore golf strike which breaks golf clubs in real life

Try and hit a long straight shot in the pocket and have the cue ball stop or come back. Keep shooting the shot with more power until you are missing the shot. When you are consistent with making that shot you have found the max power you should use on ANY shot.

 

[3RAILKICK]

I just wanna know... What's the best technique out there which can apply the most powerful, most devastating stroke to the cue ball? Precision really doesn't matter. The only features I'm looking for are highest possible power with little chances of missing the CB while shooting. I can't wait to use a weapon like that, it could finally get me back in my winning streak :smile:

P.S. I'm looking for a reliable shot, not some equivalent to Happy Gilmore golf strike which breaks golf clubs in real life

If the question is legit-there is good advice given on ramping up your speed to crush the cb. Whether that tool gets used often is another issue.

If you are just messing with us...there still has been good advice offered.

If you play primarily on a bar box-that much power will cause a lot of unintended results....like knocking out players on adjacent tables

For the sake of arguement: Once you get the Gorilla speed down-here's a fun shot-but only try on 9 foot table..CB near the end rail, off to the side(not under the light)-elevate about 30 degrees, shoot hard at the far rail...with force follow.....watch out!

- Keep the orthodontist/oral surgeon phone number handy...have fun!:grin:


...hey-if it was good enough for Mosconi....

 

[Push&Pool]

I think as you gain in experience you will learn that even the break, a good break, requires accuracy. Sure you can break the balls good without being accurate, just getting lucky. But to have a good consistent break you NEED accuracy.

It always matters.

I know what you're talking about but in barbox play you don't need much accuracy on every shot, sometimes it's enough to shoot in the right way and shoot hard. When it comes to breaking (and some other shots as well) I'm perfectly comfortable with extreme power and little precision.

Have you ever considered doing things the right way?

You don't have to look like you have a mental disability to be able to break well.

Mental dsability?! The guy in the video wasn't me. Also, "right way" is a very relative term. Breaking on a barbox with crazy power is the right way. Breaking with high precision on a 9ft in a tournament is also the right way. Get it?

Try and hit a long straight shot in the pocket and have the cue ball stop or come back. Keep shooting the shot with more power until you are missing the shot. When you are consistent with making that shot you have found the max power you should use on ANY shot.

I never said my max power shot was supposed to sink a ball directly. There are other ways of pocketing the balls too, like breaking the rack and clusters, bank shots, combos etc.

If the question is legit-there is good advice given on ramping up your speed to crush the cb. Whether that tool gets used often is another issue.

If you are just messing with us...there still has been good advice offered.

If you play primarily on a bar box-that much power will cause a lot of unintended results....like knocking out players on adjacent tables

For the sake of arguement: Once you get the Gorilla speed down-here's a fun shot-but only try on 9 foot table..CB near the end rail, off to the side(not under the light)-elevate about 30 degrees, shoot hard at the far rail...with force follow.....watch out!

- Keep the orthodontist/oral surgeon phone number handy...have fun!:grin:


...hey-if it was good enough for Mosconi....

Unintended results are exactly what I want That way I'll have a few surprises in my sleeve if the opponent even attempts defense/safety play. There is no safety when I shoot! Maybe I'll try that trickshot, but don't worry, the balls fly around more than enough in regular play. About two weeks ago I sent a ball more than half meter into the air. I felt so proud of myself I even made the shot!

One time I shot at a side pocket, the ball didn't drop but jumped instead and fell directly into the opposite side pocket I guess more than a hundred times in my career the OB jumped vertically and then dropped instead of being pocketed regularly. I have many, many more similar stories about balls flying at the spped of sound, nearly hitting other people etc. I could write an essay about it. But there's this one I remember particularly: I blasted at the opposite rail, the CB jumped back towards me and nearly hit me in the balls. Damn, that was close!

 

[Cdryden]

I know what you're talking about but in barbox play you don't need much accuracy on every shot, sometimes it's enough to shoot in the right way and shoot hard. When it comes to breaking (and some other shots as well) I'm perfectly comfortable with extreme power and little precision.

Then, unfortunately for you, I think you're going to struggle a lot with this game. A smaller table doesn't mean that you can afford less accuracy. In fact, because of it's tight quarters it will require you to be more precise with your position.

Letting the cue ball fly around the table will make things difficult for you. And hitting the cue ball hard without regard for accuracy is a recipe for disaster. It seems though that you are set in your ways.

Having a powerful stroke and hitting the balls hard are not the same thing. If I were you I would avoid playing for money.

 

[hang-the-9]

I just wanna know... What's the best technique out there which can apply the most powerful, most devastating stroke to the cue ball? Precision really doesn't matter. The only features I'm looking for are highest possible power with little chances of missing the CB while shooting. I can't wait to use a weapon like that, it could finally get me back in my winning streak :smile:

P.S. I'm looking for a reliable shot, not some equivalent to Happy Gilmore golf strike which breaks golf clubs in real life

Hit it hard, center ball. It's often called "the break shot" in many games. Watch how Johnny Archer, Roberto Gomez and Jeff Deluna break, copy whichever one of them you can that works for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXwHPQ_vXcs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVuafupnt9Y

Should not help with winning anything though unless you are entering a break speed contest. Even in a break, the goal is to pocket a ball and get a shot at the next one while opening up the table (talking about games like 9/10/8 ball here), not to just hit it hard.

 

[hang-the-9]

One time I shot at a side pocket, the ball didn't drop but jumped instead and fell directly into the opposite side pocket I guess more than a hundred times in my career the OB jumped vertically and then dropped instead of being pocketed regularly. I have many, many more similar stories about balls flying at the spped of sound, nearly hitting other people etc. I could write an essay about it. But there's this one I remember particularly: I blasted at the opposite rail, the CB jumped back towards me and nearly hit me in the balls. Damn, that was close!

And this is why you get made fun of here. If you play bad and don't care, you get bad results. I'm glad you are in a different country, although in the US there is probably at least one of you in every local bar. Which is why I never play in them.

 

[Jallan]

Push&pool, I had hope for you but I'm slowly learning it was wasted... From now on I will be referring to you as Gomer Pyle. I'm sorry you don't realize this is a finesse game and not about power. I feel like a lot of knowledgeable players have given you good advice that you just don't want to listen to. And that's your choice. Bang on buddy, that's as far as you'll ever get.

 

[justadub]

Push&pool, I had hope for you but I'm slowly learning it was wasted... From now on I will be referring to you as Gomer Pyle. I'm sorry you don't realize this is a finesse game and not about power. I feel like a lot of knowledgeable players have given you good advice that you just don't want to listen to. And that's your choice. Bang on buddy, that's as far as you'll ever get.

And this is why the rest of us call him Poolkiller, author of the Manifesto, he who favors The Ram Shot.

But no, I'm all wrong. Couldn't possibly be the same person.

 

[Ghosst]

Breaking on a barbox with crazy power is the right way. Get it?

No.

I never said my max power shot was supposed to sink a ball directly. There are other ways of pocketing the balls too, like breaking the rack and clusters, bank shots, combos etc.

Breaking clusters is about control, not KABLAMO! Combinations/plants are also played with control as you need to pot a ball, keep the intermediary ball near the pocket and have the CB stay in line for the next shot. Bank shots are extremely sensitive to the speed at which you hit them, allowing you to either shorten or lengthen the angle without using side.

But no, I'm all wrong. Couldn't possibly be the same person.

I also have my reasons for thinking that too. I'm fine with it being him (again) but I wish he would learn at some point that people have tried to help. If he refuses to learn anything, well, what can you do...

 

[Pushout]

It doesn't matter that help was offered, he doesn't really want it. That's the point of his threads/posts. Avoids answering questions that would clear things up but that's not the point. He says just enough to appear clueless.


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[hang-the-9]

It doesn't matter that help was offered, he doesn't really want it. That's the point of his threads/posts. Avoids answering questions that would clear things up but that's not the point. He says just enough to appear clueless.


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Oh no, I disagree, he says MORE than enough to appear clueless