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What is the One Major Player Flaw You See Most Often At The Pool Hall
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yea me too
i can’t watch videos of keith mccready or tony ellin it makes me physically sick
but i guess they did ok without me
That's similar to the problem I see in many players: inability to see their own flaws, or judge their own strengths.
One of the ways this shows itself is when a player gets into a really bad game. They remember their own great shots and only see the other guy's mistakes. (@Quesports , I think he saw only your misses and remembered that one time he ran four balls.)
I see a lot of this in my students. I ask them to come to the lesson with problem shots but they almost never do. Or "I do the drills pretty good but I have a problem with this one cut shot." Imagine the cue ball on the spot and a ball half way to the corner pocket (one of the nearer ones), and a couple of balls off straight.
The main part of a player's game where this is a problem is that they tend not to practice the shots they have trouble with. They have their favorite drills and that's comfortable for them.
I suppose not seeing your flaws is kind of a higher level flaw.
It's been shown pink can sap your energy. At least with jailed cons. Bet nobody macho can play on it.
Flakeandrun
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I kind of like it as a novelty, it would be fun to host a charity event or use it for a specific purpose. But I know the purpose will end up being just to play the club girls...
I am curious to see how it goes, or if the usual table one match-ups migrate to a VIP room, or another table.
Table one usually sees a lot of action. So I was surprised they chose this one to go pink. I shot a couple balls on it, and it made me truly appreciative of grey. Grey is much better to play on. Second only to the powder greyish blue colour.
Love the idea of sub 4s. They have a collection of them and just pinked one for promotional reasons?
Pink can be looked at differently…..that color has been used in psycho wards as a calming influence.
Grey is my least favorite color…..I have trouble seeing clearly.
I wouldn't know. I only have access Simonis Unkempt Greenish. lol. I could live with grey though.
Over tanned blonde babes in pink bikinis. Favorite fashion.
Flakeandrun
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I don't know why they did it... Like I said, I personally think they want to promote the girls you can pay to play against... which is a new addition to this hall anyway, and sucks in my opinion (I quite liked that it wasn't like the Chinese table halls that do this...). Would be great if they did it with a promotion of an event or idea in mind. So far, the boss said 'it looks cool'
They have 20+ 4" tables, but these two up top get the most traffic, and the cloth gets real slow, real fast, compared to the rest of the tables which get less "competitive" action.
Interesting, is there a particular reason why? I find the ball colour pops nicely for me. As it does with powder blue. I like the darker green and blue, but I certainly find this less comfortable on my eye.
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It’s just my idiosyncrasy….bright lights and certain colors bother me….an expert in that field told me I don’t have the filters that is common.
Which may explain why’ no matter how old I get, I can still read fine print with no help.
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True enough that some amount of elevation is usually required. However, try to find a book that doesn't have illustrations of the instructor using greater elevation than required due to the limitations of the shot. Likewise, video will show them elevating the cue more than they need to. The reason is consistency. Trying to shoot with the most level cue possible adds one more variable to the shot. The theory is great, the practice, not so much. Once I realized the "level cue" advocates didn't do it themselves I quit taking that theory to extremes myself. Raising the back of the cue a little has a handful of benefits. Mainly instead of shooting a different shot almost every time most shots become the same.
When somebody playing for low bucks nicely asked why I did something the way I did, I generally told them. When they told me I made a mistake I generally agreed with them. After all, they were paying to give their bad opinions. Why should I explain that the way I ran the balls made the overall pattern easier? I won, they lost, they came back for more since they thought they saw flaws in my game. The vast majority of players I gambled with played about the same as me, a little worse or better but I was luckier. No reason to destroy those illusions.
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InsertCleverNameHere
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Really don’t understand where you’re even coming from with this. Nobody used the word “level” but you.
Adding elevation just for the sake of this mythical “every shot is the same” angle is truly reductive and doing so with side spin will get you broke. Almost everyone (relatively speaking of course) gets this wrong, it’s ok.
And I’d suggest watching/paying attention to the best in the world on today’s equipment instead of a diagram in a book.
Adding elevation just for the sake of this mythical “every shot is the same” angle is truly reductive and doing so with side spin will get you broke. Almost everyone (relatively speaking of course) gets this wrong, it’s ok.
And I’d suggest watching/paying attention to the best in the world on today’s equipment instead of a diagram in a book.
InsertCleverNameHere
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Just adding if you think Fedor and Filler add elevation beyond the minimum for the given shot then yeah don’t think I can add anything else to this.
If it comes down to mechanics, there is a lengthy list of flaws to enumerate.
However, I think there is a common one which is inconsistent cue ball speed.
In order to make the game easier, getting into position for the next shot is
fundamentally important. Coming up too short or too long is very common.
I’ve always believed playing angles is better than playing English. Regardless
of which you prefer, if you don’t use the right cue ball speed you’ll get screwed.
Players just don’t pay attention to how much energy is needed or how much they
should have used on the prior shot as they moan & grimace about their next shot.
The list of flaws in general is long from stance to bridge length, head position, grip,
PSR, chalking, stroke, indecision, LUFU, hitting OBs way too hard, incorrect English, etc.
So if I had to pick one, not understanding or even knowing how much to energize the cue
ball using the req’d stroke speed is a flaw IMO & is very likely to be the most common one.
However, I think there is a common one which is inconsistent cue ball speed.
In order to make the game easier, getting into position for the next shot is
fundamentally important. Coming up too short or too long is very common.
I’ve always believed playing angles is better than playing English. Regardless
of which you prefer, if you don’t use the right cue ball speed you’ll get screwed.
Players just don’t pay attention to how much energy is needed or how much they
should have used on the prior shot as they moan & grimace about their next shot.
The list of flaws in general is long from stance to bridge length, head position, grip,
PSR, chalking, stroke, indecision, LUFU, hitting OBs way too hard, incorrect English, etc.
So if I had to pick one, not understanding or even knowing how much to energize the cue
ball using the req’d stroke speed is a flaw IMO & is very likely to be the most common one.
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I haven't had cause to watch Fedor. Filler and Shaw play a game much like mine when trying to run a lot of balls. I was playing that way before they were born so pretty safe to say I was doing it before they were.
Never said every shot the same, I did say most of them. Nothing mythical about that and the more consistent everything about your game is the better. When over 75% of shots are at the same cue angle it becomes part of your unconscious' built in expectations of cue ball behavior.
To be fair I went to youtube planning to look at today's players and instructors. The picture at the top of the first page showed the instructor with his chin on the cue, and the back of the cue elevated nicely! Then I took a look at Fedor. Choice between lowering his bridge a little or raising the back of his cue, he raised the back of his cue. So much for what is done now. Old photographs and video, new video, nobody seen is trying for lowest cue possible. Those favoring chin on cue get the cue up too. Long bridges contribute to a flatter cue but on shorter shots when the options are a higher or lower cue angle there doesn't seem to be any effort to try to get the lowest possible cue.
Two or three inches at the buttcap changes angle from a constant change to a much more constant angle. You might have a point if we were talking about a major change in cue angle but with the axis being the bridge we are talking about a few degrees. The affect on cue angle from raising the butt a few inches is much ado about next to nothing.
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