What king of levels do you guys use?

9BallPaul

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The mechanics who installed my recent table showed me a level that they claimed cost 3k. Were they blowing smoke or is there such a thing?

In any case, I'm perfectly satisfied with my table. No leveling issues.
 
Most are $85 to $200 there are a few around $300-1000 rare for this kind of work but you see them on ebay not much in real life table installs more for precision maching in the setup stages and production where high tolorences are needed. Now your looking t micron finish and parrallel margine of +- .00005 of an inch any holes drilled to x +- so much again ... you get it old draftsman remeber the days i used to draw before cad.

Craig
 
You got it thats also a pretty good price for them. Not alot of companys stocking them and asking close to retail on them unless you buy in large 20+ quanity.

My truck was broken into last month they got all but a couple of my levels. back to having 2 6" 1 8"and 1 18" still adding more to the listas I do more tables and pool halls.

Craig
 
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The mechanics who installed my recent table showed me a level that they claimed cost 3k. Were they blowing smoke or is there such a thing?

In any case, I'm perfectly satisfied with my table. No leveling issues.


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was the level they showed you a starrett level?
 
I used a 98-8 Starrett level on top of a 4' carpenter's level (Glen's idea in a previous thread). I also have a second 4' carpenter's level with a machined edge, as well as a 12-inch machined-edge level. I own only one Starrett, but I was able to level my table so that a ball wouldn't roll at all when placed on bare slate anywhere on the table.
 
Levels for sale

All of my levels are now for sale for only $2000.00 each. First with cash gets a $1k savings over what the mechanics in the OP bought!!!!

Interested parties please call me directly @ 425-275-8255, as I only have fifty or sixty available..LOL

PS wishing all AZ Members/Billiard Mechanics a healthy and prosperous 2011


Gordon Graham
Realkingcobra trained
Las Vegas

LIVIN' THE DREAM
 
Machinist Levels

Used to be Starrett, Brown & Sharp and Mitutoyo owned the precision leveling and machinist tool segment . . . all are ultra precise and well made. Of course, quality comes at a price but they sure aren't what you'll get at Harbor Freight Tools.
 
level

Don't recall any brand names. But they showed me that by sliding a crisp dollar bill underneath one end, it would throw it way off level.
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Did the level look anything like the levels here?
 

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How did you get the bubbles in the middle mine are always off to one side or the other even with a match book under the leg.

Nice
 
level

I'm not sure how the levels got that way...............Craig your too funny' bout time we get some good comedy around here...
how you been?
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Rob.M
 
I used a 98-8 Starrett level on top of a 4' carpenter's level (Glen's idea in a previous thread). I also have a second 4' carpenter's level with a machined edge, as well as a 12-inch machined-edge level. I own only one Starrett, but I was able to level my table so that a ball wouldn't roll at all when placed on bare slate anywhere on the table.

I've often wondered about this technique. Why would we want to put a level accurate to .0005 on top of a level of considerably less accuracy. I realize that much of the accuracies are with the vials but I'd have to assume that the accuracy of the frame is also a factor. But even if the 4' level is "dead on" aren't we only getting an average across the 4' length or simply a reading between each end of the 4'er?
 
I've often wondered about this technique. Why would we want to put a level accurate to .0005 on top of a level of considerably less accuracy. I realize that much of the accuracies are with the vials but I'd have to assume that the accuracy of the frame is also a factor. But even if the 4' level is "dead on" aren't we only getting an average across the 4' length or simply a reading between each end of the 4'er?

This technique is for frame leveling only which only needs to be close. Once the slate goes on its machinist(s) only.
 
You got it thats also a pretty good price for them. Not alot of companys stocking them and asking close to retail on them unless you buy in large 20+ quanity.

My truck was broken into last month they got all but a couple of my levels. back to having 2 6" 1 8"and 1 18" still adding more to the listas I do more tables and pool halls.

Craig

They got several of my Starretts from your truck too.....Ready to drive back to Cali and do some regulatin'!
Be back out there in about a month, after I get done in Tennessee, probably.
 
Levels

If you use only the Starrett Level on the frame you will chase it around in a circle all day long.
Thats exactly what I did
{I even marked where I put the level on all 4 sides of the frame, so I would at least be in the same area, but even that wouldn't work.}

Once again I asked Glen RKC and he told me about putting the Starrett on top of another level .
Worked fine. Thanks Glen
Now I have to get the slates level.
 
There are many types of levels, all can get the job done when used properly. Recently I saw a table setup using long levels and a feeler gauge. IT came out perfect with nothing under the slates like a leveling system from Diamond or Brunswick.

Getting slates flat to me is key. Using a small level is not desirable IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k717SV6ljBQ
 
Starrett straight edge

I have aways had good luck with using my Starrett 98's WITH A STARRETT STRAIGHT EDGE. the levels sit right on top of the straightedge and the slate dials right in. I use two six foot (72") straightedges one down each side to read the seams. It works great. If you plan on doing table work you will end up owning a few $$$$ of STARRETT.

Good Luck
Gordon Graham
Las Vegas
425-275-8255

OTLB: Thank You for posting the Brunswick slate video, I enjoyed it. I have seen it before but it was an older version. Thanks
 
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