I just read a post where a guy chimed in and declared that a very well respected and all around great cue builder didn't meet his criteria for "master cue-bulder". That kind of got me thinking about the whole classification thing. I don't recall anybody ever using this term back in the 80s when I got into custom cues. Do most of you think this is just marketing? To me, master cue-builders are guys like Bushka,Szamboti, Harvey Martin, Rambow etc. Having said that, I have no problem calling guys like Bill Schick, Paul Mottey, Ernie Guiterrez master cue-builders either. I am just curious as to what criteria my fellow cue fanatics use when throwing this label on a guy.
What Makes A Guy A Master Cuebuilder?
- Thread starter pathman
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i never heard of the term, but it sounds to me like it's something someone made-up for himself to differentiate some cuemakers from others. there is such a glut in the market of people calling themselves "cuemakers" that it begs some form of criteria of seperation, but, of course, it can't be done.
having said that,,,here's mine..
ernie gutierrez
tad kohara
david kershenbrock
mike bender
richard black
paul mottey
bill schick
tim scruggs
bert schrager
the list goes on, but i'm stopping here. at some point you have to close the door.
having said that,,,here's mine..
ernie gutierrez
tad kohara
david kershenbrock
mike bender
richard black
paul mottey
bill schick
tim scruggs
bert schrager
the list goes on, but i'm stopping here. at some point you have to close the door.
Eric Crisp will be on the list-mark my words. His cues play up there with the grand masters, his determination is clear to those who know him. Forget all the hype etc. He is the real deal and has the goods to back it up, I have never once in my 22+ years in pool have I ever once said this about new cue maker-I will stand by my words.
How could you leave Barry off?
He is awesome. I know it was an accident.
How could you leave Barry off?
He is awesome. I know it was an accident.
Besides those mentioned, I would add Bill Stroud to the list of true masters. Besides his fantatic work, he has has been innovative in developing modern cue building techniques. He also does a lot to promote the artistic and historic aspects of cue collecting with his international cue collectors show.
Chris
Chris
How about a 5yr plus waiting list? If you have that many orders....it should make one considered a "master".
p.s/ Anyone care to add Dennis Searing to the list? I'm pretty sure he qualifies.
Varney Cues said:How about a 5yr plus waiting list? If you have that many orders....it should make one considered a "master".
With this criteria, a cuemaker could get really sick and become backlogged, creating a 5 year plus waiting list. Nope. Too easy for this one to go wrong.
I think a master should be one who builds cues that play well and endure years of use. Someone who has multiple repeat customers, who return over and over for his very useful works of art.
Also, aren't masters often referred to as teachers???? Just a thought.
I agree with this to a point. The next generation will tell us who the real masters of our generation were. I instantly dismiss anyone who claims their own mastership (Joe from CC & a couple others I can think of)
I would also add to the list : Thomas Wayne, Dave Barenbrugge & Paul Fanelli. Their artistry puts them at a different level. We are lucky to live in a time when so many great cues are being made from such a talented pool of cuemakers.
Andy
I would also add to the list : Thomas Wayne, Dave Barenbrugge & Paul Fanelli. Their artistry puts them at a different level. We are lucky to live in a time when so many great cues are being made from such a talented pool of cuemakers.
Andy
