What Should I Do?

[tpdtom]

Here's my take on it. No pros like Scott are going to give lessons for $15 ph, granted. Their specialty is the fundamentals anyway. You need a guy like this "A" player for One Hole help, but I agree that he's unlikely to school you for $15 an hour. He may play for $10 a game AND give up some weight, if you're lucky. Maybe only when he's bored. If he'll play you with a spot that is heavily weighed in his favor for $10 a game in One Pocket then you have a great deal. YOU WILL IMPROVE AS A RESULT ! If you battle hard and don't sell out a game may take 30 minutes. Eventually you might win one out of 5 games. Good luck and keep trying to improve...Tom

 

[stick8]

game

I'm in a situation and I don't know what to do.

This past weekend I lost about 400 playing a guy that I KNOW I should beat. It hurt so bad that I decided to quit playing for a while. Well tonight I went to the pool hall and saw a pretty well known player there. He just moved here for work. So my two questions are:

Should I still take a break, or get back to the game and try to learn some things from this guy while I have the chance?

and

How much should I offer to take some cheap one pocket lessons from him?
I was thinking something like 15/hour and pay for all the games. Is that fair?

Let me know what YOU think.

talk with the fruitcake lady on this one!!!!

 

[rossaroni]

Making $8/hr, you should be shot for losing $400 in pool. Of course, you never enlightened us as to how exactly you wound up in such a situation. Was this a "I'm down $200 and we'll do double or nothing ?" If so, bend over pal. You deserve a good a$$ whippin

Yea he should be shot! Like you mentioned, he didn't enlighten us on how he wound up in this situation. Maybe he played $1 a game and lost 400 in a row. However, maybe he played $100 a game and lost 4 racks. Does that mean he was hustled? What if he won $1000 the time before losing $400. Maybe he is up $5000 in the last month playing this hustler. Maybe he gets a $400 a week allowance to play pool with. These are a bunch of "what if's", but "what if" we give this guy a break until we do know the whole situation.
Good luck and I am sure there are some good guys out there who would help you out for $15 an hour or maybe even less. You(and us) will never know until you ask him.

 

[poolandpokerman]

I went from a non 1pocket player to a aveage player by playing on a 1 pocket league for 26 weeks and watching 1 pocket dvds everynight for about an hour, buy/borrow some dvds and listen to Cardone,
Grady and Danny tell the world how they would play each shot, that will cost you a lot less then $400. Good luck, 1 pocket is a great game to play.

 

[stikapos]

Yea he should be shot! Like you mentioned, he didn't enlighten us on how he wound up in this situation. Maybe he played $1 a game and lost 400 in a row. However, maybe he played $100 a game and lost 4 racks. Does that mean he was hustled? What if he won $1000 the time before losing $400. Maybe he is up $5000 in the last month playing this hustler. Maybe he gets a $400 a week allowance to play pool with. These are a bunch of "what if's", but "what if" we give this guy a break until we do know the whole situation.
Good luck and I am sure there are some good guys out there who would help you out for $15 an hour or maybe even less. You(and us) will never know until you ask him.

If the kid won $1,000 before losing the $400, he wouldn't be gripping. Up $5,000 last month, he wouldn't be posting. $400 a week to play pool, he wouldn't be working. Any other salient points to relay ?

tim

 

[rossaroni]

If the kid won $1,000 before losing the $400, he wouldn't be gripping. Up $5,000 last month, he wouldn't be posting. $400 a week to play pool, he wouldn't be working. Any other salient points to relay ?

tim

Who is to say that he would not have posted? I am sure that winning poker players still tell bad beat stories. Anyone can learn something by working on their game, no matter if it is Efren or a college kid that makes $8/hour. In his original posts, the hurt that he is feeling doesn't necessarily mean financially.

 

[jon21588]

Ok, So here is the deal.

Well first of all I live in Greenville, MS. I usually pick my spots to play pretty decent. I'm up about $2000 in the past six months playing pool. I haven't lost a match gambling in forever, thats why it was a pretty tough one to take in. I've played the guy before at my pool hall and annihilated him in nine ball. So last Friday a couple of friends picked me up and we headed South to Brookhaven, MS for a $50 handicapped tournament. I left here with 400. Right before the tournament I was down about 170(40 for gas, 50 for tournament, 25 for half myself in calcutta, 40 in snooker ring game, 15 food/dip) so I had 230. I got 4th in the tournament and it paid me 175, so I was back up to 400. We got to the pool hall at 9:00 saturday morning after staying the night. We played form 9:30 til like 12:00 that night. We left Brookhaven at 12:30 heading North. We stopped in Jackson, MS and thats where the shit hit the fan. I agreed to play $100 sets rotating 9 ball and one pocket. Well needless to say I lost 400. I won 1 set and it was a nine ball set. I had previously gambled playing 1 pocket twice. I made that mistake, but I thought I could win so I played. I wasn't giving up until one of us was busted, and I made that clear to everyone. We played races to 9 in nine ball and races to 4 in one pocket. I got my ass handed to me.

Thats the story of how this all happened.

Yes I make 8/hr and its fine for me. I get 55 hours a week so its more than enough for what I need at this moment. I get paid again in two weeks so I should have about 1000. I'm going back to Jackson and either leaving busted or up a pretty good bit. I'll just have to wait a couple more weeks to play if I go broke again, but I know I can beat this guy. He definitely didn't "Hustle" me btw.


Sorry for the long post, but it was certainly needed.

I'm going to ask the guy tonight what he thinks about my deal.

 

[3andstop]

I agree with one of the above posters. There is no better way to learn than getting some accu stats videos. Both instruction and matches. Especially as mentioned with DiLiberto Mathews and Incardona. I think Bill Incardona has one of the best minds in the game of 1 pocket.

Even if your player is a great teacher, absorbing what is told to you is another story all together. But .... watching it on a DVD that you can play over and over is another thing all together. In your home, quiet and much better to learn from.

When you get good enough to really start seeing the moves and understanding things, then perhaps playing a better player and watching their approach would be more helpful, but until then, paying for lessons and really taking the info home with you in your mind is two different things. Get the DVDs.