What to Do 1/26/9 ??

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I was faced with this playing funsies in my basement. What do you do?

It is 10-ball (thanks, JR); 9 does not go in (same) side pocket:

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Jude Rosenstock said:
Is this 8-ball? 10-ball?
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That is a fine question. And a wonderful first step in the decision-making process (duh!)

It is 10b and I shall edit OP...thanks:duck:
 
does the 9 go in the side?


If not then play the 7 in the corner leave the cueball right in the middle of the table.8 in the corner, come across
and be straight in on the nine for either corner pocket.(whichever u prefer) either draw or follow it up for the 10.

fwiw id play the 9 in the top left corner and follow up for the 10. but its all preference.
 
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This is one of those situations where no matter what you do, if you get out, you look like you did the right thing. Obviously, the 9-ball is in a funny spot but based on the location of the 7, you should be able to relocate the 9 with little effort. However, by doing so, you're likely going to have a somewhat challenging shot on the 8. You can also play them as they lie but it's going to require a challenging on shot on the 9-ball to get downtable for the 10.

I say relocate that 9-ball right now. There's just so much good that can come from it. It sucks if you end up with a tough angle but the worse scenario is dealing with the 9-ball as is. You can relocate that 9-ball, have the cueball move off the rail a few inches and be left with a very routine scenario. What's more, the shot on the 7 is really just a stun shot with no chance of getting hooked.
 
PinoyRomeo said:

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I guess.........................
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Although personally, I would relocate the 9-ball immediately, if I were to play them as is, I would not shoot the 7-ball this way. Follow will get you to the same spot with much less effort. All you want is an angle that's going to get you back to the other side of the table for a straight shot on the 9.

The problem I have with this route is simple. If my angle on the 9-ball isn't fairly straight, I'm going to have to juice it up, slam the 9-ball in and cross the width of the table twice to get shape on the 10. I think the percentages warrant that you try and avoid this.
 
I went into the 9 right away. Actually shot it a couple of more times and felt happy w/ result 7 of 10 tries. The harder I hit the 7, the better the result, btw.
 
I do have to say though, this is an excellent shot to post here. It's a real growth shot. This is precisely the type of scenario a lot of players mishandle.

Some more food for thought, a slight variation of this layout, you shouldn't forget that the 9-ball banks easily in the side so long as you're positioning for it.

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Neil said:
That's the 2nd option I mentioned, Jude. But why did you move the 8 ball????
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Oh, I didn't read that part. I just moved things around to create an ideal situation to position to bank the 9, that's all.
 
Black-Balled said:
I was faced with this playing funsies in my basement. What do you do?
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Scenario 1:
I would cut the 7 in and follow out for a perfect angle on the 8.
I would cut the 8 in and land perfectly on the 9.
This would leave a simple 9 down the rail with follow for the 10 ball.
I would slightly miss the 9-ball jarring it in the corner pocket, leaving an easy out for my opponent.

Scenario 2:
I would cut the 7 in and follow out for a perfect angle on the 8.
I would cut the 8 in and land perfectly on the 9.
This would leave a simple 9 down the rail with follow for the 10 ball.
Even though I tried not to, I would catch the outer part of the side pocket, sending the 9 out into open play, leaving an easy out for my opponent.

I am fairly certain I can execute both scenarios with decent consistency. :D
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
This is one of those situations where no matter what you do, if you get out, you look like you did the right thing. Obviously, the 9-ball is in a funny spot but based on the location of the 7, you should be able to relocate the 9 with little effort. However, by doing so, you're likely going to have a somewhat challenging shot on the 8. You can also play them as they lie but it's going to require a challenging on shot on the 9-ball to get downtable for the 10.

I say relocate that 9-ball right now. There's just so much good that can come from it. It sucks if you end up with a tough angle but the worse scenario is dealing with the 9-ball as is. You can relocate that 9-ball, have the cueball move off the rail a few inches and be left with a very routine scenario. What's more, the shot on the 7 is really just a stun shot with no chance of getting hooked.
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No disrespect mean here, but I have to disagree. I dont see any reason why the 9 would have to be taken further out into the table. By playing into the 9, you risk hitting it full, and leaving the cue where the 9 is now. And that does NOT make for a routine shot afterword. The cut is Efren-esque and the bank is... well, I would rather play a s traight shot than a bank anyday.


I'd play the 7 in the top right corner and follow the cueball off the top rail and across table to leave myself a lsight angle on the 8. Then play the 8 in the bottom right corner wth high left, following two rails (lower rail AND short rail) leaving myself anywhere on the top rail for a long follow shot on the 9 in the top left corner. Even if you dont follow far enough OR you leave an angle on the 9, its still a makeable.

Best case scenario - you get good on the 9 and the follow to position on the 10 is easy.

Worst case scenario, you leave a little angle on the 9, play it in the same corner, and follow going two rails for similar position. Even with a bad stroke, you still get short-side.

Just seems better than moving the 9 just for the sake of seeing if you can.
 
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