What to do with this Willie Hoppe?

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D-Sub

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Hey all

we have this cue...it was my grandpas. I know these are a bit sought after but we are not selling. I am just curious a)what it might be worth, and b)what the folks here would suggest I do with it.

leave it as is, or maybe take it to an expert to have it modernized? It's heavy as hell at 22oz, and the handle is HUGE. Leather is in excellent condition. Only thing that's been done is the shaft was refinished by Corsair Sr about 15 or so years ago. Nothing since.

when put together and "sighted down" there's a bit of a bend. Haven't rolled it.

what do you all think? My dad played it for a while in the early 90s when we played a lot together. he hasn't touched it since.

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D-Sub said:
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It is really still in very nice overall Original condition. I would leave it alone, however, there is nothing wrong with playing with once in a while. If I were going to do anything, I would have a nother shaft made to play with, so the original is not damaged.

I completely agree with you, I would not sell it either, family keepsakes can never be replaced.

I would say that in it's current condition it should be valued at around $700dollars. Keep in mind, items like this are starts for a collection!!!!!
 
Dollar value ? ? ? I don't know....but.....A LOT.

"What would I do with it?" I'd put it in the most secure environment I could find. That puppy's rare in that condition and a birdseye shaft to boot!!!! Some people have all the luck.
 
KJ Cues said:
Dollar value ? ? ? I don't know....but.....A LOT.

"What would I do with it?" I'd put it in the most secure environment I could find. That puppy's rare in that condition and a birdseye shaft to boot!!!! Some people have all the luck.
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Luck? Shiiiit, man...luck is not something I am familiar with. Just happen to have a family of "anal" men who take care of their stuff.

funny, there's one on ebay right now:

Here

anyway...don't intend to play it really...was curious about "updating" it, but that's probably not a good idea since it's in such good condition.

thanks for the responses.
 
D-Sub said:
Luck? Shiiiit, man...luck is not something I am familiar with. Just happen to have a family of "anal" men who take care of their stuff.

funny, there's one on ebay right now:

Here

anyway...don't intend to play it really...was curious about "updating" it, but that's probably not a good idea since it's in such good condition.

thanks for the responses.
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do you want it cleaned up or completely converted?

its in good shape. id leave it

jerry rauenzahn doesn great work with the classics.

as is its worth more

as a conversion most cuemakers like a 1 pc cue bc them hoppes already cut up the joint is to small sometimes and then the leather was so damn thick the wrap groove is too deep to re taper. no wiggle room

leave it alone
 
that has got to be one of the nicest original Hoppes i have ever seen.i wouldn't do a thing to it.usually you can't even see the veneer colors in them.
 
If leaving it as it is is not a very useful idea for your then perhaps you can trade it to a collector for another titlist and some cash.

This is a nice piece. The decal is still intact!
 
MasterClass said:
If leaving it as it is is not a very useful idea for your then perhaps you can trade it to a collector for another titlist and some cash.

This is a nice piece. The decal is still intact!
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OK...I guess I wasn't clear. I have NO intention of trading it or selling it, and its "usefulness" means nothing to me. I hardly knew my grandpa, so when my dad passes this will literally be the only heirloom I'll have. I had a .22 rifle that he gave me but sold it to buy something else...didn't really think about it.

the conversion idea was a fleeting one.

I don't even think it needs to be cleaned up. The leather is still perfect...some minor nicks in the shaft, and a slight bend in the shaft...otherwise it's clean as heck.

so what do you collectors say it's worth? Again, only out of curiosity. Is there anything wrong with asking that? If so, I apologize. I definitely think the $700 estimated above was quite low.
 
Koinkid may shine some light on the value but I think 500-800 is about right. I may be wrong though.
 
Someone offered me more than that a while back at Danny K's.

Wanted to come back and post that I meant no offense by saying that an earlier estimate seemed low. Hope it didn't come off that way.
 
What the previous gentleman were stating was the current (extremely soft) market value. What other similar cues have sold for and is an estimate. Somebody could offer you $2000.00 but it doesn't make the market value worth that.....just the worth/value to that specific person.
 
RDCustomCues said:
Koinkid may shine some light on the value but I think 500-800 is about right. I may be wrong though.
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That's quite low. A new Predator Willie Hoppe will cost you the same.
 
I was thinking the $700 was kind of high considering all of the other Titlists out there and the prices that they have recently commanded. I think it will be a while before they command Blue Book values, but that is only my opinion. Nice full label and great condition helps alot. If it were normal wear, I would put it in the 300-450 range. Not trying to bash the value, just my opinion. As for the slight warp, I would probably buy one a cue hanger from put the cue together and hang it vertically for awhile. That might help a bit in straighting the shaft if it is not too bad.

Great cue. I know many older cues like this were stored in sub-par casesthat didn't protect almost direct contact between the shaft and butt sections of the cue when putting them in or taking them out. It would be pretty easy to rub the label up against the edge of the shaft collar, damaging the label. I would be careful in storage, and would strongly recommend a nice case if you don't already have one. I'd get a 1X2 It's George if I could find one, a Ron Thomas, Whitten, or other similar case. Don't skimp on a case. Much of the value of this cue is condition, and you don't want a case that will rub the label off the cue.

I know a guy who puts 10,000 worth of cues in a $110 case because he doesn't want to spend the extra money it takes to buy a top notch case. Go figure.
 
In person, do the points look like the same wood as the butt sleeve? It looks to me like the sleeve could be bloodwood.

Kelly
 
What to do with Willie Hoppe cue

It's not your cue. It belongs to your son or grandson.
Unless you need the cash badly, keep it in the family.
It's in beautiful condition and has a history.
Just MHO. Steve Price
 
WesleyW said:
That's quite low. A new Predator Willie Hoppe will cost you the same.
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Given the current market I feel this is a good ballpark figure.. However do a comparision check ebay they have these cues every so often maybe not in as good of shape and Maybe as good or better. Check what they are bringing. Then check the net on SOLD cues see what they are going for. I do not recommend researching ASKING price as this is not a good indicator of absolute market value.

And you cannot make a value comparison based off a Willie Hoppe Predator they are not the same cue.
 
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a9ballbr8k said:
What the previous gentleman were stating was the current (extremely soft) market value. What other similar cues have sold for and is an estimate. Somebody could offer you $2000.00 but it doesn't make the market value worth that.....just the worth/value to that specific person.
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true true. "Value" is an individual thing. Doesn't matter anyway I guess.
 
RDCustomCues said:
Given the current market I feel this is a good ballpark figure.. However do a comparision check ebay they have these cues every so often maybe not in as good of shape and Maybe as good or better. Check what they are bringing. Then check the net on SOLD cues see what they are going for. I do not recommend researching ASKING price as this is not a good indicator of absolute market value.

And you cannot make a value comparison based off a Willie Hoppe Predator they are not the same cue.
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It's ok, fellas. no need to argue price. It really doesn't matter as it's not going anywhere.

It's stored well

the wood on the sleeve and points appears to be different to me.
 
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