What was so special about this Titlist?

Dana Bufalo said:
I'm assuming the buyer will be using it for conversion but $370.85 (plus shipping) is alot of money.., isn't it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Vintage-WILLI...ryZ21212QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Seller's Description;
This is an old Willie Hoppe Brunswick Titlist Cue I picked up at an estate sale.. It is 53-3/4"inches long with a slight bow in the front half..
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Rosewood and extremely good colors. It will make a fantastic conversion. Damn wish I liked ebay.

Joe
 
It looked a little purple

classiccues said:
Rosewood and extremely good colors. It will make a fantastic conversion. Damn wish I liked ebay.

Joe
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Joe,

I thought that it might have been purpleheart. It had that type of tint, that when taken down, you may have found something special! I was going to go to 3 bills but I saw that everyone was drooling over the cue.

Rob
 
cuesrus said:
Joe,

I thought that it might have been purpleheart. It had that type of tint, that when taken down, you may have found something special! I was going to go to 3 bills but I saw that everyone was drooling over the cue.

Rob
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Maybe.. but the point colors really stand out, and you never know. It could be ebony, but either way its in great shape.

Joe
 
i thought it might be ebony myself, that's why i bid so high on it. and it was one piece, that allows a lot more latitude than the two piece cue.

guy
 
I love the old titlist cues, I have one of the first viking cues ever made, It has a titlist forearm and is a real nice period cue. But I see the titlist conversion cues the same way i see a remake of a classic movie, when i see one of either of them i wish it had just been left alone. and feel that if you have all the talent and equipment to make a cue, make one, not 1/2 of of one. if you want to make a movie.....write a script!
 
jayman said:
I love the old titlist cues, I have one of the first viking cues ever made, It has a titlist forearm and is a real nice period cue. But I see the titlist conversion cues the same way i see a remake of a classic movie, when i see one of either of them i wish it had just been left alone. and feel that if you have all the talent and equipment to make a cue, make one, not 1/2 of of one. if you want to make a movie.....write a script!
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I hear ya, but there are those of us that like the older stuff. This wood has aged and IMHO would make a nice cue.

Well if you want to write a script then are you going to make and press the paper and formulate the ink? Of course you're not, you have to start with something already made. :)

JV
 
Hi dana.... i just picked a hoppe titalist up about 6 weeks ago for around 200. I have no idea what the points are made of. They look like maybe a dark maroon??????? Maybe Mike Webb can jump in and let me know since i have sent it to him for conversion. When i see you at Turning Stone Casino i will bring it over to show you since that is when i am picking it up from Mike....see you there............mike
 
jayman said:
I love the old titlist cues, I have one of the first viking cues ever made, It has a titlist forearm and is a real nice period cue. But I see the titlist conversion cues the same way i see a remake of a classic movie, when i see one of either of them i wish it had just been left alone. and feel that if you have all the talent and equipment to make a cue, make one, not 1/2 of of one. if you want to make a movie.....write a script!
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Tap, Tap. When you make one, then you know exactly what you have, CONVERTING!
You just never know.
 
classiccues said:
I hear ya, but there are those of us that like the older stuff. This wood has aged and IMHO would make a nice cue.

Well if you want to write a script then are you going to make and press the paper and formulate the ink? Of course you're not, you have to start with something already made. :)

JV
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Yup it would make a nice cue. and already has. I love the old cues as much as anyone.....If you'r going to make a cue are you going to age some wood , and formulate some points?...Of course you'r not,you have to start with something already made.:)
 
Michael Webb said:
Tap, Tap. When you make one, then you know exactly what you have, CONVERTING!
You just never know.
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To change (something) from one use, function, or purpose to another; adapt to a new or different purpose
Hmmm take a pool cue and turn it into a pool cue... (converting)? No I dont think so.
There is certainly nothing wrong with doing it, but it just lost its novelty a long time ago. and in my opinion just lacks originality, and doesnt showcase the cue makers talents in what believe to be the the most difficult area of cue making (spliced points) and the part that distinguishes one maker from another as much as any, IE: burton s, gus s, etc...Much like making a classic movie, vs using a script over again. both are movies its not a "conversion movie" its a movie that mostly relied on the work alredy done by someone else for the same purpose.
 
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jayman said:
To change (something) from one use, function, or purpose to another; adapt to a new or different purpose
Hmmm take a pool cue and turn it into a pool cue... (converting)? No I dont think so.
There is certainly nothing wrong with doing it, but it just lost its novelty a long time ago. and in my opinion just lacks originality, and doesnt showcase the cue makers talents in what believe to be the the most difficult area of cue making (spliced points) and the part that distinguishes one maker from another as much as any, IE: burton s, gus s, etc...Much like making a classic movie, vs using a script over again. both are movies its not a "conversion movie" its a movie that mostly relied on the work alredy done by someone else for the same purpose.
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SO let me ask you then.. a guy like Chip Foose that takes an old car and "converts" it, he is lacking originality and the like? I mean really, he is taking one car and turning into hmmm....a car... and probably a few more similar circumstances could be made. The best cuemakers have made titlist conversions, from Rambo to Guitierrez, Schick, Bushka, Boti, and just about everyone in between. Lost its novelty? To who.. recently we had a "titlist" conversion collector, right here on AZ, I am sure he would disagree. I actually think its cool that our "sport" can recycle equipment in this manner. I don't think no other sport can make that claim.

Save a tree.. convert a titlist... :)

JV
 
To change (something) from one use, function, or purpose to another; adapt to a new or different purpose
Hmmm take a pool cue and turn it into a pool cue... (converting)? No I dont think so.
There is certainly nothing wrong with doing it, but it just lost its novelty a long time ago. and in my opinion just lacks originality, and doesnt showcase the cue makers talents in what believe to be the the most difficult area of cue making (spliced points) and the part that distinguishes one maker from another as much as any, IE: burton s, gus s, etc...Much like making a classic movie, vs using a script over again. both are movies its not a "conversion movie" its a movie that mostly relied on the work alredy done by someone else for the same purpose.
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You're entitled to your view, however you sound more like you are trying to knock individuals for doing the aforementioned conversions more than just stating your opinion on the matter. (citing that they lack artistic creativity and originality)**Boggle** .

J.W. does quite a bit of conversions as well as exclusively J.W. cues. I dont think that I have seen a cue of his that is lacking in creativity or originality...former or latter.

I suppose we could go round and round (as I could name cue artists for a good long while whom do conversions and use blanks) on the issue, but the market for these cues I believe speaks for itself.

-Mike
 
i am with Joe and Mike ;)

you wanna know who or whats lacking in originality and is complete lack of use of talent....SW cues have been using the same old designs for over 15 years and they seem to have no problem selling 300 some of the same cookie cutter cues year after year...

no one seems to blast them for this...and they have 7 or 8 year waiting list to boot....

at least some other cuemakers/converters are trying different design and construction techniques while still making traditional designed cues and making some nice conversion cues like the masters of old and new....

i would gladly take a tascarella titlist conversion over any southwest for its playability, design and overall value for the $$$....especially an ivory sleeved over stainless jointed one ;)
 
I think $370 is a really fair price for a 1 piece titlist especially if all the verneers are in good condition.

Raist has a Bill Shick titlist with purple heart points that looks just like this one. You can only tell it is a purple heart up close. Or it could also be one of the rarer rose wood point titlist. I remember that there is a range of titlist with very dark rose wood points which are suppose to be rare as well.

The fact that it is one piece really give the cue maker alot of flexibility to work with. This cue if converted by a respectable cuemaker is really going to turn out great.

Hopefully the owner will grant us the pleasure of seening it when it is done.
 
Hi folks. I won that cue and I believe it may be an ebony titlist. The owner emailed me and told me that the point color was accurate and that the points were black.

If it is an ebony titlist, I think I scored big. If its not, I might have paid a bit of a premium. Oh well thats gambling...

I plan to ask Dennis Searing to convert it for me if its an ebony. If its not ebony, I plan to ebay it again.
 
Hi Guys,

Just wanted to left you all know that I will have about 1500 Full Splice Blanks coming to me in the fall. About 250 of these will have the traditional titlist veneer colours: Purple, Green, Brown and Maple into rosewood with birdeyes maple forearm. I will have them in also: Black, Orange, Green and Maple, red and black veneer...and many other assortments. Custom blanks order are also available but requires you to order 100 blanks.

If anyone is interested, please sign up at my site www.customcuesandtips.com. I will be taking orders in the fall for these beautiful, perfect, oversized full spliced blank!!! Special Pricing will be given to member only!! Let just said it 1/3 of the cost for a good aged titlist blanks.

Regards,
Duc.
 
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Cuemaster98 said:
Hi Guys,

Just wanted to left you all know that I will have about 500 Full Splice Blanks coming to me in the fall with the titlist veneer colours: Purple, Green, Brown and Maple into rosewood with birdeyes maple forearm.

If anyone is interested, please sign up at my site www.customcuesandtips.com. I will be taking orders in the fall for these beautiful, perfect, oversized full spliced blank!!! Special Pricing will be given to member only!! Let just said it 1/3 of the cost for a good aged titlist blanks.

Regards,
Duc.
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Who is the maker?:confused:
 
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