What would you do here??
- Thread starter Neil
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Is it new cloth? Old?
If it was newer cloth, i might literally try some crackhead shot like this one with tons of draw. It's really not that far fetched if the cloth is right.
Otherwise, i'd try to do some masse with extreme left to attempt the same and kick the 2 uptable in the process.
If it was newer cloth, i might literally try some crackhead shot like this one with tons of draw. It's really not that far fetched if the cloth is right.
Otherwise, i'd try to do some masse with extreme left to attempt the same and kick the 2 uptable in the process.
Well. it's just another shot that can be practiced.
Not many people practice this type of curve draw off a rail.
Just like not that many people practice certain types of masse shots, despite the fact that once you get to a certain level, the curve becomes very predictable and given the situation, certain results can also be predicted.
I'm pretty sure that Efren doesn't just take shots into the wind.
He kind of KNOWS his chances when he hits the ball, and that's probably due to practice and experience.
I know that i have sort of a system for masse shots, and have had great if not surprising results with some of my efforts.
As for the curve draw shots, that is just pot luck for me as i am too lazy and never really take the time to do a couple before a match, but if i DID, i'd be willing to bet that it would be easier to judge based on that info, and i'd be more confident in at least HITTING the balls. Practice it enough and it becomes pretty predictable.
Try it a couple of times.
Then see if you can manipulate it with slower speeds, longer follow through, maybe a little jacked up on it, or inside english and see what results you end up with.
That way, you KNOW if it's a crackhead shot to take, or if given the situation, it might not be THAT crazy.
Not many people practice this type of curve draw off a rail.
Just like not that many people practice certain types of masse shots, despite the fact that once you get to a certain level, the curve becomes very predictable and given the situation, certain results can also be predicted.
I'm pretty sure that Efren doesn't just take shots into the wind.
He kind of KNOWS his chances when he hits the ball, and that's probably due to practice and experience.
I know that i have sort of a system for masse shots, and have had great if not surprising results with some of my efforts.
As for the curve draw shots, that is just pot luck for me as i am too lazy and never really take the time to do a couple before a match, but if i DID, i'd be willing to bet that it would be easier to judge based on that info, and i'd be more confident in at least HITTING the balls. Practice it enough and it becomes pretty predictable.
Try it a couple of times.
Then see if you can manipulate it with slower speeds, longer follow through, maybe a little jacked up on it, or inside english and see what results you end up with.
That way, you KNOW if it's a crackhead shot to take, or if given the situation, it might not be THAT crazy.
Is the diagram to scale with the 2/9? If there's a hair more separation, and I mean a hair, I'd jump behind the two with left hand english and ram at that 9. Worst case, the 2 is getting sent upstream. Focus on cracking the 2 from behind (meaning, making a good hit) and take the chance on the 9. I dont like the push to that rail position because the dolt will make you shoot at it.
This play sends the 2 into no-man's-land and gives you a 25% on the 9.
This play sends the 2 into no-man's-land and gives you a 25% on the 9.
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Sorry about the locking up the three and the eight. I was momentary confused myself. The only way I see of doing this is to kick at it from the bottom rail which would be insane. Thanks for pointing this out. Or maybe I was just trying to confuse you. Everything else does work.Neil said:
P.S. I like your decision to jump and at least rearrange the situation. A push out would invite disaster.
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Kick the rail with bottom left and try to get that 2 away from the nine
until last week I would have pushed into the bottom right corner. Now that I have a Lomax Jump Cue and been spearing everything in(or close to it) I would have opted to jump the 8.
What I dont like is the FACT I didnt see, what is now I believe is the best shot, thats kicking behind the 2 ball and sticking the rock next to the 9 and sending the 2 up table. It really irrates me when I dont see the "best" option, i need more creativity. I thought of all the other shots and didnt like them. This is where JA is so strong-he never ever shoots the wrong shot.
What I dont like is the FACT I didnt see, what is now I believe is the best shot, thats kicking behind the 2 ball and sticking the rock next to the 9 and sending the 2 up table. It really irrates me when I dont see the "best" option, i need more creativity. I thought of all the other shots and didnt like them. This is where JA is so strong-he never ever shoots the wrong shot.
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Neil said:It's your first shot after the break. Pushout option available, jumps allowed. The 2-9 is sitting to where with ball-in-hand, the carom is a gimmie on the 9. However, kicking to the bottom rail and spinning into the 2 to carom the 9 is 'iffie' at the very best. I really don't think it will go, but I have been wrong once or twice before.The eight is sitting to where if you just miss hitting it, the cb will hit just on the 2 side of the middle diamond. You have about a ball and a half to two balls space between the cb and the 8.
There aren't many great options and this is a tough situation. Here's one shot although not one that I would want to shoot.
I might shoot this if I was being staked by Smorgass Bored.
JoeyA
Neil said:
Neil,
If that is the case, you should have moved the cue ball a little more behind the 8 ball. Where the cue is placed I simply drew a straight line to the kick on the 2 ball, using no English to hit the edge of the two ball. You may have said that in the thread but I do better with pictures.
JoeyA