What would you do here??

Neil I am a new poster here and I have to say that this site has people that post very informative stuff. You are one of those guys and thank you for that.

It would have to be a safe.... Play the 4 off the rail lightly to get behind the 3
 
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Before I stick my foot in mouth... I'm not real familiar with APA rankings, but I'm assuming an APA 5 is poor money to cut the 5 in the side and break out the cluster?

If that's correct, then the 5 needs to leave at least one ball to constipate the 8.

Can you do this according to the rules? Call safe and lightly bank the 4 cross side while leaving the CB behind the 3?
 
I would try to pocket Five in the corner, rather than cut into the side to minimize cue ball travel. Call safety, kick into the Four, and hide behind the Three.
 
i'd come off the 5 down table and back up behind the 3/4 for safe if the angle allowed so
 
There are several aggressive options here but all of them are too risky in my opinion. I am not sure about apa rules but the shot thats going to win you the match is this:

Bank the four to the middle of the table and roll whitey onto the rail in line with the 3 and 8. Now if your opponent kicks and hits the 8, you are a big favorite to make the 5 and run out. If the 8 doesnt move enough to get out of the way, just safe your opponent again.

This is my reply to this and I have not looked at any other posts in this thread yet.
 
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You are correct Kat, but if you make the 4 cross side you MUST shoot again. Can't call safe, make a ball, and turn the table over as in BCA/VNEA.
Here I would bank the 4 to mid table & roll thru to stuff the CB beind the 3. Leaving the 5 in place becomes a safety valve - offensive or defensive - after my opponent kicks at the 8. If he pushes the 3 against the 8, I've also got the 4 open to use for offense/defense, and the 5 still in place as a safety valve.
 
Wow no one had the exact same answer as me. I like my response the best so far. Its easy to execute and you are a huge favorite to win.

I stand corrected, me and Mdavis think alike! As soon as I posted this I saw your post Mdavis
 
Shoot straight at the 4 knocking it into the middle of the table and hiding the cue ball behind the 3. If opponent kicks and makes contact with the 8, then there's a good chance that the 8 ball will be moved out of the way of the 3 ball. If he or she does not make contact with the 8, then under BCA rules, I would get ball in hand and be able to shoot the 3 up into the opposite corner or bank it if I'm feeling good. But, I do not know APA rules, so this may not be the best option.
 
You are correct Kat, but if you make the 4 cross side you MUST shoot again. Can't call safe, make a ball, and turn the table over as in BCA/VNEA.
Here I would bank the 4 to mid table & roll thru to stuff the CB beind the 3. Leaving the 5 in place becomes a safety valve - offensive or defensive - after my opponent kicks at the 8. If he pushes the 3 against the 8, I've also got the 4 open to use for offense/defense, and the 5 still in place as a safety valve.

I thought about this.. but fact of the matter is, this is a skill level 5 and you guys want to him perform a touch shot with about 2 inches for room of error.

If he blows it and hits it to hard, it's over.
 
I thought about this.. but fact of the matter is, this is a skill level 5 and you guys want to him perform a touch shot with about 2 inches for room of error.

If he blows it and hits it to hard, it's over.

All you have to do is roll into the four soft and whitey will follow the four at least an inch or two, I think my grand mother can do that!

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The new cuetable won't work on my computer now (great idea to fu@k with a good thing!), so I can't diagram my suggestion but it would be:

Bank the 5 two rails (short rail, short rail) to the 8B and follow 1-rail to the lower left corner to hook my opponent. If the 5 puts the 8 in jail, I get BIH. If it doesn't, my opponent will have to displodge it. If he just hands me the CB (not even try to hit the 8), I can break 'em open with either the 4 or 5.

EDIT: I decided to go "old-school" on cuetable...
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I thought about this.. but fact of the matter is, this is a skill level 5 and you guys want to him perform a touch shot with about 2 inches for room of error.

If he blows it and hits it to hard, it's over.

That should be a shot that is makeable. The three is huge and the four does not need to be moved more than 7 or 8 inches off the rail. That said, I don't play APA and have no idea how strong or weak a 5 is.
 
Shoot straight at the 4 knocking it into the middle of the table and hiding the cue ball behind the 3. If opponent kicks and makes contact with the 8, then there's a good chance that the 8 ball will be moved out of the way of the 3 ball. If he or she does not make contact with the 8, then under BCA rules, I would get ball in hand and be able to shoot the 3 up into the opposite corner or bank it if I'm feeling good. But, I do not know APA rules, so this may not be the best option.

I agree. I would move the 4 ball out into the open table, but leave it closer to the 3 ball. It can be used as defense on the next shot or offense if I get a chance to break out the 3.
 
Well since this is APA, things change slightly.

First: Take a big drink of beer.
Second: Tell your team how lucky your oppenent was leaving the 8 where he did or you would have run out.
Third: Drink some more beer.
Fourth: Adjust my teeth.
Fifth: Shake your head and yell "*$&^"

Lastly, kick the 3 to the center of the table and leave the cue ball behind the 4.
 

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Neil I dont like your solution because what if he kicks and leaves you where the four is blocking the 5, and the 3 isnt playable either. I like my solution because you are moving the four into the middle of the table where it should be playable from anywhere. Not only that now the four cant hinder you like in this situation.
 
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