What would you do here??

I hope your not taking this too seriously. I am enjoying thread so far and the back and forth. Well first off I like my solution better because its easy. Second, if you play your solution and then the other guy plays my response (which is exactly what I would try to do in his shoes), you have a tough cut on the four or you have to let the guy back at the table. I like my solution better because no matter how he kicks and hits the 8 you are going to have an EASY shot afterwards and your definitely going to run out. No tough shot on the four and no having to play safe and letting him back to the table.

That,s my opinion and I still think your response is good answer but there is no "what if scenario" in my solution other than him kicking the 8 in.
 
I think I would probably play the 5 in the side with high inside to get the cueball back to about where it is now. Then I would play the safe.
If the shot on the 5 were tougher I may not do this but it appears to be a hanger and wouldn't be too difficult to get it back up table.
 
Koop said:
I think I would probably play the 5 in the side with high inside to get the cueball back to about where it is now. Then I would play the safe.
If the shot on the 5 were tougher I may not do this but it appears to be a hanger and wouldn't be too difficult to get it back up table.
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I wouldn't do this, because the 5 is in a good position as an insurance ball after he kicks at the 8. If he makes a good hit on the 8, you want the best possible chance of having an easy shot to pocket and run out. Leaving the 5 where it is and playing the safe right away maximizes that chance.

I would roll into the 4 full-ball and leave the hook tight to 3, also. Better chance of ball in hand, and easier to make 100% sure he's 100% hooked, in my view.

-Andrew
 
Andrew Manning said:
I wouldn't do this, because the 5 is in a good position as an insurance ball after he kicks at the 8. If he makes a good hit on the 8, you want the best possible chance of having an easy shot to pocket and run out. Leaving the 5 where it is and playing the safe right away maximizes that chance.

I would roll into the 4 full-ball and leave the hook tight to 3, also. Better chance of ball in hand, and easier to make 100% sure he's 100% hooked, in my view.

-Andrew
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Exactly what I have been trying to say.
 
Andrew Manning said:
I wouldn't do this, because the 5 is in a good position as an insurance ball after he kicks at the 8. If he makes a good hit on the 8, you want the best possible chance of having an easy shot to pocket and run out. Leaving the 5 where it is and playing the safe right away maximizes that chance.

I would roll into the 4 full-ball and leave the hook tight to 3, also. Better chance of ball in hand, and easier to make 100% sure he's 100% hooked, in my view.

-Andrew
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Good point...this is exactly why I like these threads.
 
I think the best options have been described already. My first thought on seeing the first diagram was, "Whatever you do, don't move the 5." That's what I figured Neil meant when he said there were a number of options but one "wrong" option. All the rest should win the game.
 
Andrew Manning said:
I would roll into the 4 full-ball and leave the hook tight to 3, also. Better chance of ball in hand, and easier to make 100% sure he's 100% hooked, in my view.

-Andrew
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I like this shot because there are a couple of added bonuses to it as well. By snuggling up to the 3, you could cut off the direct 1-rail kick as well as the two-rail kick out of the top-right corner. In addition to that, if you don't roll the 4 too far, it could block the two-railer out of the top-left corner. Good chance of getting BIH if you're forcing your opp to kick 3-4 rails.

Aaron
 
This banger would thin the 4, send the cue ball two rails down to the foot of the table and let my opponent break out the 8 ball.
 
Originally Posted by paksat:
I thought about this.. but fact of the matter is, this is a skill level 5 and you guys want to him perform a touch shot with about 2 inches for room of error.

If he blows it and hits it to hard, it's over.

Jallan said:
That should be a shot that is makeable. The three is huge and the four does not need to be moved more than 7 or 8 inches off the rail. That said, I don't play APA and have no idea how strong or weak a 5 is.
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Most 5's have the ability to execute the shot, but only a few of them would actually think about this shot and execute it well in a game that they felt was important to them (tunnel vision, nerves, etc...)

It was my first thought; Neil's solution is clever, but not where my confidence lies.
 
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