What would you do?

cubc

cubc

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Hill v Hill he misses the 9 and leaves you this shot

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what do you do? It's common some try to bank it but then leave it hanging in the pocket as banks arent very reliable. But what is the best thing you could think of on this shot?
 
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you can shoot this with a ton of inside and hit the rail right next to the 9 and spin it right in. if you know it and have done it a few times it works pretty well. i like to go for it instead of letting my opp. luck out on me
 
I've struggled with this very situation since I started playing about 13 years ago. I've tried every available option and asked for many opinions.

In the end, the better players recommended that I go for the win and bank the ball. It's a free opportunity to win and there is no good (near fool-proof) response on the defensive side.

If the ball were frozen, the bank would not be available. I'd try something near a 1/2 ball hit with top spin to hold the CB somewhere down table and bank the 9 to the opposite short rail.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
I know I'll probably get criticized for this but I'm blasting it about 100 mph, give or take.
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I second that. Slop counts. Give it a whirl, it may end up in a pocket.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
I know I'll probably get criticized for this but I'm blasting it about 100 mph, give or take.
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I agree. In this situation, Im going down swinging....not ducking. If the safety is as hard or harder than the shot, I feel you should shoot the shot.JMO

Southpaw
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
I know I'll probably get criticized for this but I'm blasting it about 100 mph, give or take.
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I going to have to go ahead and agree with you on this one, that motherfather is going on a magic carpet ride
 
I'd have to go for the long rail bank, medium speed, and if I miss it, hopefully, the object ball will hit the short end rail first and go back up table along the rail, leaving my opponent with a bank shot of some kind.

Stones
 
Depends on my opponent. If I felt like playing safe, and I knew the table well enough, I would slow roll it straight at the 9. Usually though I would bank it with enough speed to get safe if I miss on the short side, especially if the 9 isn't frozen.
 
I always use percentages when playing pool. There is about a 50% chance of making the bank and about a 50% chance of playing an effective safe. When the odds are about even its best to shoot to win not lose.
 
Assuming the game means something and you're facing a worthy opponent, its always better to shoot if the safe is as difficult (uncertain) as the shot.

_Rick
 
rikdee said:
Assuming the game means something and you're facing a worthy opponent, its always better to shoot if the safe is as difficult (uncertain) as the shot.

_Rick
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So, in sum, you're gonna whack at it, too.
 
If 9 is not frozen, I would play the double-kiss and send the cue-ball back to the original spot (in a perfect world).

I don't know the correct way to do this. If I have a slight angle I normally try the off the rail spin it in shot.

I've also been known to miss the long bank and the object ball always seem to end up over the side pocket.. RARR.

Tough shot. I'd love to see John Schmidt or one of the other pros (Blackjack), give their take on it.
 
Snorks said:
If 9 is not frozen, I would play the double-kiss and send the cue-ball back to the original spot (in a perfect world).

I don't know the correct way to do this. If I have a slight angle I normally try the off the rail spin it in shot.

I've also been known to miss the long bank and the object ball always seem to end up over the side pocket.. RARR.

Tough shot. I'd love to see John Schmidt or one of the other pros (Blackjack), give their take on it.
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This is a good safety but you really need to be able to hit the cueball with some draw. Considering you're on the rail, you're already losing accuracy AND you're simply not going to get that kiss-back action, it'll be tough to get the result you're looking for. If you have the cueball over the middle of the table, you're in business but not here.
 
thx for all the replies.. i never know what to do when this shot comes up i always want to try something else because it's so low percentage. And in most pool halls slow rolling and double hitting is near impossible to find a table that true.
 
Softy

You can slow roll the cue ball into the object ball and freeze it with a slight double kiss. You'll likely leave an impossible angle and not sell out. You have to know what you're doing though and know how to slow roll a ball with accuracy. Some players will foul when they get two frozen balls like that because they push the cue ball and mess up. You can also bank it off 1 rail and leave the object ball frozen back on the opposite rail, but again it's speed and knowing how to play perfect speed. You should never go for a bank like this if you're making it at a low percentage because that means you'll sell it and be thinking about selling it the whole time you're getting down to shoot it. Another shot is to kick it with draw off 1 rail and leave the cue ball down there and kick the object ball to the bottom rail, but that's only if you know how to kick a ball good and are accurate. Giving it a whiff and crossing your fingers is an amatuer thing that will get you in a lot of trouble during the course of your pool life. Even if you miss doing the right thing, at least it further prepares you for getting good at the right thing, which is control and pressuring the other guy to sell out and whiff. If you lose because he whiffs it, that's ok because he cannot win all day doing it. The percentages will always yield in your favor if you do the smarter fundamental things. Practice all the options, and get good at all of them because they're all going to apply at some point in a game.
 
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