What Would You Do

Okay, don't look at this diagram as precise. This is going to change depending on how fast the table is but you want to create a split. The biggest reason why I say so is the location of the 5. If you can manage to get the 4-ball to the same rail as the 5, there is an excellent chance you're getting back to the table. In my diagram, I have the cue ball coming to rest on the head rail but you may also be able to hook your opponent behind the 9 or the 6.


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disclaimer: I don't play on 7" tables, but on a standard 9" with the layout you show, I cant see a problem stoping virtual dead behind the 9 and banking the OB off the bottom rail for a easy safe.

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Neil said:
Jude, I looked at that possibility, but I figured I wouldn't get the hook. Even if I got the 4 up there, I was leary of him having a decent carom off the 4 into either the 5 or the 7. Too cautious due to previous events that evening????


Yeah, I started to think about this some more. I would play this shot on a 9-footer but with the added reason that distance will be a safety. Your play on a 7-footer might be the way to go depending on how easy the pockets are.
 
i might have banked the 4 into or near the 6 so even if he banks it he has to get by the 6 to get back up table for the 5. or if you can hit the 4 ball full enough shoot it full in the face with a stop shot and a little inside english and try to freeze him on the 9
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Yeah, I started to think about this some more. I would play this shot on a 9-footer but with the added reason that distance will be a safety. Your play on a 7-footer might be the way to go depending on how easy the pockets are.

Not tight but extremely deep shelf.


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poolplayer2093 said:
i might have banked the 4 into or near the 6 if you can hit the 4 ball full enough shoot it full in the face with a stop shot and a little inside english and try to freeze him on the 9

good idea.

sometimes I wonder if my posts even show up. lol.
 
Neil said:
Did you read post #4?

oh, I thought i did. I didn't see my name.

with no real grasp of the speed of the table, I would think that the stop shot directly behind the 9 would be the safest route. regardless of table speed if you can hit that ball full front you should be able to stop it cold. personally I would be much more aprehensive to take the bank you took and trying to put enough stuff on it to come back full table... talk about risky... that's a "all in" move for sure. good execution but I gotta like my odds MUCH better on an unfamiliar playing surface just checking the ball up behind the 9...
 
Beware_of_Dawg said:
regardless of table speed if you can hit that ball full front you should be able to stop it cold.

If you hit the ball full, you're not banking it the right direction for your safety. In order to get the 4 where you want it, you have to cut it, and then you can't hold the CB where you want it.

-Andrew
 
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I think Jude is doing some wishful thinking, because I think the 4 would come off the first rail a lot straighter than his diagram considering the backcut and english, but I had the same idea but doing it a different way.

I would bank like you did only a lot straighter and for the 4 to be on the foot end rail between the 5 and 7 and try to put the cue ball behind the 9 ball on the uptable end rail.

Either way I don't like the shot.

The other shot is too slide the 4 off the uptable end rail over behind the 6, and bring the cue ball around 2 rails back down towards the 5.

And I still don't like it.
 
Snapshot9 said:
I think Jude is doing some wishful thinking, because I think the 4 would come off the first rail a lot straighter than his diagram considering the backcut and english, but I had the same idea but doing it a different way.

I would bank like you did only a lot straighter and for the 4 to be on the foot end rail between the 5 and 7 and try to put the cue ball behind the 9 ball on the uptable end rail.

Either way I don't like the shot.

The other shot is too slide the 4 off the uptable end rail over behind the 6, and bring the cue ball around 2 rails back down towards the 5.

And I still don't like it.

Well, so long as I hit the side-rail and leave the 4 on the short-rail near the 5, I think I'm okay assuming I can keep the cue ball where I diagrammed.
 
All's well that ends well but you violated the standard rule of choosing between shooting and ducking.

You had at least an 80% chance of leaving your opponent either hooked or VERY tough. On the other hand, unless you are a killer banks player, that shot was about a 20-30% proposition.

Playing safe was clearly the choice...especially with a 1-0 lead.

Regards,
Jim
 
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