Whats the best play here?

[danquixote]

With the layout as depicted in your cuetable, I would have caromed the one in the corner hitting the tit of the pocket first sending the one off the 15 into the corner pocket and the 15 off the rail clearing the corner for the 8. Using follow, the cueball ends up on the rail straight in behind the 8 ball. If there isn't enough room to play the carom, I would opt for shooting the one in the opposite side pocket and follow down to break out the 8 but try to hit the 8 such that it pockets the 15 and leaves me the 8 in the same corner.

Regards,

Randy

My feelings exactly.....I would try to make this a two way shot......kissing the 15 to make the 1 and drawing the cb back to the long rail....I would shoot this bank at pocket speed and would be trying to freeze the cb to the rail......tough bank for him if you miss and an easy shot down the rail for the 8 if you make the 1......Dan

 

[mr_griff]

I like 3 of the suggestions

Playing for the bank would be an ok option. The concern is coming too far of the end rail and having a goofy angle. The follow shot is probably an equal play if you're not 100% comfortable with the speed, but who knows if you get shape or not (if you dont there might not be a good safe). The third play (the one I would have done if I had an hour to think about it) was to play the safe that FranknCali came up with. By putting the one close to that cluster and getting the CB on the top rail down table a ways it's an aggressive safe. A one rail kick that has to be hit perfect (might not even be makeable) is his only play. The one would be insurance against getting hooked and would be set for a much easier breakout if he fouled. Worst case he kicks the 15 back into the 8 and leaves you an awkward breakout angle. A case could be made for all 3, but...

Trying to play safe on the eight is a bad move imo. Best case your opponent does something stupid, but if not I've won a few games being in similar spots to where stripes were. As soon as you play safe, the eight might not have a pocket and he'd have little incentive to break things up for you. I've intentionally fouled my way to more than a few wins with my ball blocking the pocket.

Tough break with the draw scratch. I had 2 matches this year where I was the hammer and it was for the win that night and was lucky enough not to have any real head scratchers. I might have gone for the same shot.

 

[TX Poolnut]

This could have been a good shot.

CueTable Help

I'm with Ace on this one. It's easy to do and allows for a safety chance if you miss. Two-way shots are almost always best. I think the key to this shot is only hit it hard enough to make it.

 

[danquixote]

I'm with Ace on this one. It's easy to do and allows for a safety chance if you miss. Two-way shots are almost always best. I think the key to this shot is only hit it hard enough to make it.

This is the shot I was refering to in my original post, I said draw the cb....but intended to say follow......wish I knew how to use the damn template...lol

 

[CreeDo]

This is the shot I was refering to in my original post, I said draw the cb....but intended to say follow......wish I knew how to use the damn template...lol

There's a lil video on how to here:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=64559

But I think it could be better, it's tailored for people on a different website. Here's how you'd use it for this one (fairly similar)

1. Go to http://talk.cuetable.com/CueTable.php
If it isn't showing the table, install shockwave and make sure your popup blocker isn't blocking it. Shockwave is here: http://get.adobe.com/shockwave/

2. Drag the balls where you want them for the layout. Drag unwanted balls off the table.
To draw lines from a ball, double click it. When your line reaches a rail or another ball and you want to show it changing direction, click once and you can now extend it in a different direction. Double click to stop playing with that line.

3. If the line you're currently drawing is messed up, click the tools button by the bottom left pocket. As you hover over each tool you can see what it does. Third one in lets you delete the line.

4. Once you got everything laid out just right, click the tools button (unless you already did earlier) and look for the "url" button at the furthest right. Click it to copy your layout. Nothing will happen yet.

5. Make your post or reply on these forums. Type this: [weì]
and then press ctrl+V on your keyboard to paste in the layout you copied. Don't put in a space or hit enter.

It will look like a big string of random letters and numbers, like this:
http://CueTable.com/P/?@4AALW4BFJW4CEBw4DEKa4EBhc4FCgW4GFRI4HFYL4IAKQ4JBhC4LFOv4MFPN4NCmN4OABO@

At the end of that gibberish, type this: [/wei]
Again, no space.
====================

That's it, the diagram is now in your post.

 

[danquixote]

There's a lil video on how to here:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=64559

But I think it could be better, it's tailored for people on a different website. Here's how you'd use it for this one (fairly similar)

1. Go to http://talk.cuetable.com/CueTable.php
If it isn't showing the table, install shockwave and make sure your popup blocker isn't blocking it. Shockwave is here: http://get.adobe.com/shockwave/

2. Drag the balls where you want them for the layout. Drag unwanted balls off the table.
To draw lines from a ball, double click it. When your line reaches a rail or another ball and you want to show it changing direction, click once and you can now extend it in a different direction. Double click to stop playing with that line.

3. If the line you're currently drawing is messed up, click the tools button by the bottom left pocket. As you hover over each tool you can see what it does. Third one in lets you delete the line.

4. Once you got everything laid out just right, click the tools button (unless you already did earlier) and look for the "url" button at the furthest right. Click it to copy your layout. Nothing will happen yet.

5. Make your post or reply on these forums. Type this: [weì]
and then press ctrl+V on your keyboard to paste in the layout you copied. Don't put in a space or hit enter.

It will look like a big string of random letters and numbers, like this:
http://CueTable.com/P/?@4AALW4BFJW4CEBw4DEKa4EBhc4FCgW4GFRI4HFYL4IAKQ4JBhC4LFOv4MFPN4NCmN4OABO@

At the end of that gibberish, type this: [/wei]
Again, no space.
====================

That's it, the diagram is now in your post.

Thank you creedo, 'preciate the info. next time I'll give it a try

 

[jdxprs]

reposition the one to down on the short rail where the 15 is, at the same time, leave the cue with the 8 between the cue and 15. he either breaks the 8,15 up, or gives you ball in hand.

if he gives you ball in hand, play the one in the corner off the 15.