What's the best way to pot this shot and get shape downtable?
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Cheat the pocket by making the 8 ball into the right hand side of the pocket and draw the cueball with low left english. 8 ball will have to come off the rail into that pocket
Play it firm with inside english and ball will pop straight up the rail about 12 inches or more.
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Had to show English on the CB. Outside English will cause you to miss the shot. You need to play inside (unless you have incredibly large pockets).
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Had to show English on the CB. Outside English will cause you to miss the shot. You need to play inside (unless you have incredibly large pockets).
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Firm / hard.
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He wanted to get downtable. That leaves him on the far side still.Mr. Wilson said:
If the pockets were bigger or I had even the smallest angle I'd power a medium low draw shot with a tip of left english.
But as it's touching and smallish pockets, I'd play the power stun through, cheating the pocket just a fraction to get the CB out off the rail and to a friendlier angle for the 9-ball.
With the CB off the rail a few inches the 9-ball become quite makeable with right english rail first.
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But as it's touching and smallish pockets, I'd play the power stun through, cheating the pocket just a fraction to get the CB out off the rail and to a friendlier angle for the 9-ball.
With the CB off the rail a few inches the 9-ball become quite makeable with right english rail first.
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Colin Colenso said:
Best answer yet, IMHO.
This shot and variations of it come up not infrequently on some of the tables I play on. It's because of the difficulty in potting this shot on double-shimmed tables and getting a bit downtable that I posted this. With normal pockets, the shot is a lot easier. Usually when I try to pot this shot on a tight pocket table and try to spin down table, the corner pocket can't take the speed of the shot and the OB blips out. Thanks for the practical advice, Colin.
Flex
My earlier post assumed that both balls were on the rail.
Given either ball or both off the rail, then you could draw with left hand english or follow through. Lots of options in this case. Even rail first with middle left to get the ball straight up the rail and to make sure you do not scratch or have a run-away CB.
Remember, the 9 is not a difficult shot, just bringing the CB up the rail half way makes it even easier.
Given either ball or both off the rail, then you could draw with left hand english or follow through. Lots of options in this case. Even rail first with middle left to get the ball straight up the rail and to make sure you do not scratch or have a run-away CB.
Remember, the 9 is not a difficult shot, just bringing the CB up the rail half way makes it even easier.
This exact shot was discussed about a year ago. I recall the most ingenious solution was a slight jump shot which causes the CB to bounce up off the OB. If you shoot into the rail a slight amount the CB will come down on the edge of the rail and be deflected uptable a fair amount. Anyone recall that thread ?
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DaveK said:
I did not see it, but as stated earlier if both balls are on the rail the best method is to use inside english. We use to be able to get the CB all the way up the rail. The CB does get very slightly airborne (not noticable). The important thing is to make the eight, so the shot should not be played too hard.
Maybe someone can dig up that post.
DaveK said:
Jimmy M. is the one that posted that shot...He actually posted a video of him shooting the shot on very tight pockets...
I am not sure if he would play it that way with the balls frozen to the rail as the first post suggests....
He may re-post it again next time he comes up for air....
