What's the difference between Aramith Super Pro and Red Circle Cueballs?
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Plays lighter to me, also.
At the US Nineball in Chesapeake, VA. in 2005 a Aramith Rep told me that the measle ball was a different phonolic than the red circle.
Thanks for that, Once again, Dr Dave is the man.:thumbup:
Very informative thank you, been looking for these answers
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I have both. There is no weight difference (I have a kitchen scale)
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That is not correct, I have played with both and the red circle definitely plays lighter.
12 grams is 0.423288 of an oz.
Do the Measle cue balls you're weighing come in sealed plastic packages ?
I just sent an Email to Aramith asking the weights of both, hopefully they will answer.
Originaly Posted By: a1712
"I've weighed no less than 30+ phenolic Red Circle Aramith balls and 20+ phenolic Measle Aramith balls. Never had a weight variance of .1 oz.. I've seen bad variance in the Plastic Red Circles though, always very light. Brian."
12 grams is 0.423288 of an oz.
Do the Measle cue balls you're weighing come in sealed plastic packages ?
I just sent an Email to Aramith asking the weights of both, hopefully they will answer.
Originaly Posted By: a1712
"I've weighed no less than 30+ phenolic Red Circle Aramith balls and 20+ phenolic Measle Aramith balls. Never had a weight variance of .1 oz.. I've seen bad variance in the Plastic Red Circles though, always very light. Brian."
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I asked Saluc. Their response is posted in a similar thread from last year.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=4438077&postcount=64
In another related post, I provided the weights of my cue balls, some of which were new and some had substantial use.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=4349966&postcount=19
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=4438077&postcount=64
In another related post, I provided the weights of my cue balls, some of which were new and some had substantial use.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=4349966&postcount=19
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I have not found many differences in matched cueball sets that were quality, as long as you did not swap cueballs around.
The only huge difference is the Tournament set, that set plays noticeably heavier than any other I have tried. You need at least 10% more power to move the cueball around.
Almost no players that try that set that I played with like using it, I'm guessing for the same reason many also don't like tighter pockets or 9' tables if they play on smaller ones, it exposes the flaws in their game.
The only huge difference is the Tournament set, that set plays noticeably heavier than any other I have tried. You need at least 10% more power to move the cueball around.
Almost no players that try that set that I played with like using it, I'm guessing for the same reason many also don't like tighter pockets or 9' tables if they play on smaller ones, it exposes the flaws in their game.
What's a matched cue ball set ??? Do you mean the cue ball that comes with the set,
as there are standard cue balls that come with different price point sets of balls?
Buy the way the Red Circle Cue ball does not come standard with any Aramith set of balls and never has. That is one of the two cue balls this thread is about.
If you don't see a difference between the Red Circle cue ball and the Measles cue ball,
using the same set of balls with each for comparison purposes.
Then I have to ask how long have you been playing pool over all ?
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I recently bought an Aramith Tournament pool ball set (with Duramith technology). I weighed them with an electronic postal scale, and all of the balls, including the Aramith Black Label cue ball, were exactly 169 grams.
That's good to know, however the discussion is whether the Red Circle and the Measle Cue ball weigh the same. The Measle Cue ball weighs the same as your blk
label cue ball does. The Red Circle does not weigh the same as these two cue balls though.
The Red Circle doesn't play lighter by magic, it plays lighter because it is lighter.
The Aramith Pro Cup (measle), Red Logo, and Brunswick Centennial (blue circle) cue balls are all the same ball, with different graphics - but they are all made with the same Super Pro resin.
The red circle is Aramith's generic replacement cue ball; it is not the standard cue ball in any set Aramith makes. It is a good quality CB, but it is made from a lower end resin than the three listed above.
As far as the weight of any individual ball goes, it means very little. All Aramith cue balls are "regulation" weight, meaning they are between 5.5 and 6.0 ounces. But in any manufacturing batch the same model cue ball may weigh more or less than one that came from another batch.
The Aramith Duramith Tournaments, the Super Pros (TV/Pro Cup, and traditional), and the Brunswick Cents are matched sets, meaning all the balls in the original set will be very close in weight. But even if you replace a CB with the exact same ball (blue circle for blue circle for example), that new ball may be lighter or heavier because it was not matched to the set at the factory.
So when someone says they weighed a red circle and a measle ball and one was lighter, it doesn't mean you can draw any general conclusions from this. Now, with the higher end balls the QC and tolerances are probably more stringent but that's about it. You really need to buy a matched set to assure uniformity. And even then the weights will change over time or when you replace a CB.
The red circle is Aramith's generic replacement cue ball; it is not the standard cue ball in any set Aramith makes. It is a good quality CB, but it is made from a lower end resin than the three listed above.
As far as the weight of any individual ball goes, it means very little. All Aramith cue balls are "regulation" weight, meaning they are between 5.5 and 6.0 ounces. But in any manufacturing batch the same model cue ball may weigh more or less than one that came from another batch.
The Aramith Duramith Tournaments, the Super Pros (TV/Pro Cup, and traditional), and the Brunswick Cents are matched sets, meaning all the balls in the original set will be very close in weight. But even if you replace a CB with the exact same ball (blue circle for blue circle for example), that new ball may be lighter or heavier because it was not matched to the set at the factory.
So when someone says they weighed a red circle and a measle ball and one was lighter, it doesn't mean you can draw any general conclusions from this. Now, with the higher end balls the QC and tolerances are probably more stringent but that's about it. You really need to buy a matched set to assure uniformity. And even then the weights will change over time or when you replace a CB.
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