What's the rule on players talking during a match?

To me, talking is a matter of etiquette. As another poster noted, a referee can deem certain verbal outbursts to fall under the "Unsportsmanlike Conduct" rules, but other than in that rare case, etiquette is awfully hard to enforce.

In most cases, if you ask an opponent not to talk during a match, they will comply.
 
When your opponent leaves the table everyone needs to stop talking to the incoming player.
Any talking can be considered coaching. If you do want to coach the player, and it’s allowed, you should announce the coach.
 
why should you not talk during a match just because he doesn't like it.

you don't talk while he is in the process of shooting .

but during the whole match you cant talk? ridiculous.
and while you are at the table, talk all you want as long as it is within good taste.
 
maha said:
you don't talk while he is in the process of shooting .

but during the whole match you cant talk? ridiculous.
and while you are at the table, talk all you want as long as it is within good taste.
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the bolded part i never disagreed with. but that's different from talking when opponent has the table, whether he's down on the shot or not
 
Well back to what I called too much bulls*** bar tournaments, don’t need the drama of shark talk, drunks, and last those who cheat. 5 buck entry, splitting quarter for bar box. Big deal if you go home winner maybe 65-70 buck first, 35-40 for second, and 20 bucks for third.

Deduct miles driven, coulple drinks, and cost of equiptment, even if you win you won nothing.

Add the bs, talking sparking who needs it.
 
MitchAlsup said:
The rule is:: the shot clock returns to max-time after each word the opponent speaks.
So, you could take 15 minutes on a shot if the opponent remains sharking the whole time.

It really takes the bite out the the shark.
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That's talking over someone's turn though and a well timed interruption can destroy the shooter's moment - unrecoverable no matter how many resets. There for sure is a ton of aberrant psych that can modulate the shooter's thought stream.
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
Well back to what I called too much bulls*** bar tournaments, don’t need the drama of shark talk, drunks, and last those who cheat. 5 buck entry, splitting quarter for bar box. Big deal if you go home winner maybe 65-70 buck first, 35-40 for second, and 20 bucks for third.

Deduct miles driven, coulple drinks, and cost of equiptment, even if you win you won nothing.

Add the bs, talking sparking who needs it.
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How many bars with pool aren't party spots?
 
straightline said:
League pool is a different animal than pro pool though.
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Yes, sorry I was talking about team pool where coaching rules are in place.
The reason I hate the coaching is because it’s time consuming. I’ve seen players spending to many minutes discussing the 9 different strategies to shot a shot all with a risk analysis. 8ball should not take 20 minutes a game.
 
Poolhall60561 said:
Yes, sorry I was talking about team pool where coaching rules are in place.
The reason I hate the coaching is because it’s time consuming. I’ve seen players spending to many minutes discussing the 9 different strategies to shot a shot all with a risk analysis. 8ball should not take 20 minutes a game.
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It's a valid opinion. No apology necessary. I used to observe the leagues mostly because I frequented those bars anyway. Never joined because you mostly had to drink away the downsides. Still waiting for leagues to produce a crop of heavies too. :ROFLMAO:
 
Lake City Red was skilled at talking to shark. His talking to shark me got me so fired up that I not only beat him but went on to win my First 2 day tournament.
My final words to him were along the lines of, " You Whining Crying shark move M F'er need to shut the F up when I am at the table. when it's your turn you can whine and cry All You Want. When it's my turn you should sit there and take it like a man." I then sat down with, "when you are done I will continue."
He had thrown in the word CHEATER as the cherry on top of his distraction effort.......cheater is definitely a fighting word. I was down on the shot when he threw it . I arose from the shot to deliver my fighting words. A self rightchous mad brings my best game. 🤷‍♂️ So try your weak ass shark moves at your own peril. 🤷‍♂️
Quarter jingling as if digging for the rack money was a favorite move of his. Always as you got down to shoot the game ball, so my slur was probably, "Quarter Jinglin' Shark Move M F'er ". Don't remember the exact words but do remember the focus that a self rightchous mad can bring. Well the potential of a physical altercation gets my full focus as well. 😉
 
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I usually don’t mind and am all too aware that I am unwittingly guilty of it chatting to team mates about all sorts of shit. However in a tournament over the weekend , à guy sat with his girlfriend and discussed his last shot and what he should have done or would do, all in a whisper whilst I was shooting.
I hated that it got to me, but it did and eventually I had to say something when I was 0-3 lining up for an 8 and they kept talking even after I asked if they were talking to me (Nod to RDN)
He got pissed off with me saying it should t concern me but said ok she will leave. Damage was done though and I lost 0-6.
I do appreciate that this loss is on me though- should have been able to focus better
 
pt109 said:
I recall years ago Kim Davenport drawing Mike Siegel in a 9-ball tournament…he made the mistake of saying he wanted a quiet match……
….15 minutes of Mike explaining to him why he wasn’t going to get that glazed his eyes. 😱
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I was thinking about Mike when some people say no talking during a match.

The match I mentioned earlier with Danny Medina, aside from anything else I don't think I have ever been more evenly matched with somebody. Homefield advantage definitely helped me, especially since I was and am a believer in homefield advantage. We were playing on a coin-op table and the quarters at fifty cents a game were going through the mechanism so fast it went from cold to moderately warm. We were playing eight ball, run out pool, no stalling on either side.

I don't think I have talked and laughed more even in a match with friends. First three games Danny insisted on me winning. Fourth game the table was perfect. When I didn't pocket my last ball Danny had three object balls and the eight ball all within a foot of a different pocket. He looked at me at just the time I shot him an ugly look thinking, "Let's see you get out of running that asshole!" He cleaned up the table and I racked. He bent over to break then stood up and motioned me over.

He had introduced himself with a front and back name, both of which I promptly forgot. Anybody that could run three balls lied about their name anyway. Now he told me, "My name is Danny Medina. I am a road player out of Los Vegas. Let's cut the shit and play pool!" Exactly what we did! We were in a little bar near my house and it had been several years since I had been beaten on a table there. No mistaking it though, Danny was creeping ahead. He was winning maybe five games to my four. We had been shooting all offense although there was no agreement in place. I didn't start playing any safeties but I did start playing the occasional two way shot. It was enough that it was now maybe five to four my way. I didn't play but one two way shot every few games. I didn't want Danny to see I had made an adjustment and make one too.

The play was intense but we were also talking and laughing nonstop. It didn't interfere in the least with our play. Danny went broke but I think the table got more money at fifty cents a game than I did. Games that went three innings or more were rare.

This was early Danny Medina before bad habits caught up with him. I had so much fun I would gladly have given all I won back, it was just for keeping score anyway. He wouldn't take but a few dollars, enough to buy gas to get back to Greenway. I asked how he would build up from zero. He said any pool room owner in the world would back him. Danny didn't lack confidence in himself!

This was when particularly small action was easy to find and I probably was friendly with a few dozen local hustlers. Not really friends but we all acknowledged we walked the same side of the street. We might be talking about anything.

I was shooting a fifty yard rimfire benchrest match alongside Hall of Fame member Don Geraci on the next bench. About halfway through the time to shoot five groups he asked if I had crossfired on his target. A fly had been on my target so I knew what was up. "It is a fly." "You are right. He has walked over to the hole and is looking in it, Got him!" The chatter didn't bother either of us and head shooting a fly at fifty yards midmatch was just a Jed Clampett thing to do! I filed a motion with the official that the outside edges of the splatter mark should be Don's official extreme spread on that group but nobody took me seriously. Had they I would have had to argue the other side!

Hu
 
almost every sport with spectators someone is making noise or sharking the players. its all part of the world and we have to deal with it.

the pool room i grew up in always had people sitting on the tables around you watching and talking all the time.
they were nice enough to stop mostly when you were stroking. until then all bets were off as far as quiet. you learn to play like that and realize that shit shouldn't bother you. and if it does its all on you.
i've haven't seen many cry babies get far in this world on their own.
 
Read the room and the situation.

There is conversation, and there is talking to/about the player/game.

In a bar tourney or league play, having a conversation about something other than the player or game is fine while not ones turn.

Talking about the game, or about the player is a problem.

In serious tourneys the distraction should be verboten.
 
Poolhall60561 said:
When your opponent leaves the table everyone needs to stop talking to the incoming player.
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The real question is, especially in a tournament match, whether a player who misses and leaves an easy out, leaves the table making a comment to his opponent insinuating that he just gave you the game. Would such a statement be considered as concession of that game or not? If not, I would certainly say it is a clear verbal sharking move.
 
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