What's the smallest, lightest Aramith cueball?

... A guy brought a measle ball into our clubhouse. He claimed it was a Aramith. this ball spun like no ball I had ever seen. I used to play at Hard Times in Bellflower and had watched hundreds of games plus what I had watched online and had never seen such odd, consistent spinning. ...
In what way was the spinning odd?
 
It would spin like a top. On a break one time it spun for close to 8-10 seconds. It was and is so different from any other measle ball that I spent the $ to get one from Aramith just to compare. He has mixed the balls up but I can tell which is which within minutes. They weigh in at the same weight.
 
here is the -high end- blackball/english pool aramith tournament balls set ( the favorite ball set ATM in the blackball pool halls here, in France) :
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But IMHO the smallest Aramith ball is the -pink- cue/'goal' ball of an Aramith Petanque ball set , in the small version the players balls are 38mm/ 1"1/2 , the -pink- cue ball, used as a 'goal' , is around 1" i believe ( 2 sizes of balls set can be ordered 38mm or 48mm , diameter of the yellow/white/blue/red balls) :

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in some french carom clubs , you'll find sometimes an old Petanque set stored in a closet ;-).

the pink Petanque cue balls/'goal' balls are for sure the smallest Aramith balls avaible. in my favorite club the game is played with the smallest size, 38mm for the blue/yellow/white/red , we play the game on a 10' carom table .

Loosers pay drinks & table times, that's the usual rule (gambling being a no-go here , for legal reasons )
No need of a fancy cue, you could win using a broomstick if you're good enough :) . that's an odd & funny game ...
Any links to how the game is played?
 
It would spin like a top. On a break one time it spun for close to 8-10 seconds. It was and is so different from any other measle ball that I spent the $ to get one from Aramith just to compare. He has mixed the balls up but I can tell which is which within minutes. They weigh in at the same weight.
I'm incredulous. If struck hard and off-center, most balls will spin for that long or longer. A clean ball will spin longer than a worn, dirty ball, though.
 
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It would spin like a top. On a break one time it spun for close to 8-10 seconds. It was and is so different from any other measle ball that I spent the $ to get one from Aramith just to compare. He has mixed the balls up but I can tell which is which within minutes. They weigh in at the same weight.
do you have checked if some silicon has been put on this ball ? On some artistic carom tables, when the cloth is a bit used, before a game some players do apply a thin coat of silicon on a cloth, then clean the cushions using this cloth.
When you clean a ball using this silicon-impregnated cloth , you notice a very odd ball behaviour ( and sometimes at the same time you gonna receive a slap on the face by the other players : they hate silicon on the balls , since/and it's soooo hard to eliminate !!! -and forbidden by the rules-)
 
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do you have checked if some silicon has been put on this ball ? On some artistic carom tables, when the cloth is a bit used, before a game some players do apply a thin coat of silicon on a cloth, then clean the cushions using this cloth.
When you clean a ball using this silicon-impregnated cloth , you notice a very odd ball behaviour ( and sometimes at the same time you gonna receive a slap on the face by the other players : they hate silicon on the balls , since/and it's soooo hard to eliminate !!! -and forbidden by the rules-)
And the same effect to a smaller extent is seen on brand new or highly polished balls.
 
The balls are both relatively new. We play on Simonis 860. When I clean the balls I use Aramith Ball Cleaner and a 100% cotton towel. I'll clean the balls tomorrow. However, the question remains as to why two different balls from the same manufacturer & of almost the exact same age play so differently in the exact same conditions.
 
The IPA are a professional English pool association. Here's one of their channel videos with some frames in the 2016 final between Ronan McCarthy and Jordan Shepherd as a visual guide. Games are played using WPA blackball rules.


The two main rulesets are WEPF world rules, and WPA blackball rules, stated above.

PDF of world rules
PDF of blackball rules (starts on page 15)
I believe he was asking about Petanque, not English 8-ball. From my quick search, it appears to be a tabletop version of a French lawn bowls game played on a carom table with a cue. Like other lawn bowls games (such as bocce), the small target ball, called the jack in English, is sent out first, and followed by both players shooting their balls towards it. The one who ends the game (after all balls have been shot) closest to the jack wins. There are other such billiard bowls games, like the Italian game Boccette, which is a tabletop cross between bocce and five-pin billiards (both of which are also Italian in origin) that notably doesn't use cues; instead the balls are rolled by hand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pétanque
 
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