It seemed like they were playing cue ball fouls only yesterday on the Bigtruck stream. I don't get it.
When did pros stop playing all-ball fouls 1-pocket???
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Buffalo has their "own " house rules - different from most.
I think US Open 1-Pocket is also cue ball only.
Its always been that way.
If you move two balls its a foul in all tournaments. If you move one ball the incoming player has the option to except the position or return it to the place he thinks it was in.
I think I read on here recently they do not require one foot on the floor either, apparently you can " crawl " on the table to take your shot lol
I don't follow... I've always played foul plus the incoming player has the option to move the ball back.
If you move two balls, does your opponent still get the option to move the balls back?
I've never played in a one pocket tournament , but in action we always played if you move a ball it is not a foul ( unless moving it would have possibly come into contact with the cue ball ) and opponent had the option of moving it back at his discretion ( and of course he would always move it to his benefit ).
All tournament pool should be foul on all balls! JMHO of course. :wink:
I agree 100%. Too much of this going on.
Yes Sir!
All balls are returned to their original position as determined by the incoming player and the player who fouled pays or owes a ball and surrenders the table.
All balls are returned to their original position as determined by the incoming player and the player who fouled pays or owes a ball and surrenders the table.
I agree. It is one thing to loosen the rules for casual and even league play, but when the game is played at it highest level (US Open?) it should be played under the most stringent rules. I've seen billiards matches among the big boys on video where a player's vest touches a ball and the foul is called. Or an old one where Sang Lee tucks the bottom edge of his vest into his pants to avoid the risk of it touching.
I didn't know they ever started. one pocket has a different set of rules vs say nine ball, or straight pool. related to the nip and tuck of the game it would be almost impossible not to (touch) a ball. thus the incoming player can have the ball replaced as close to its original spot. now if you move two or more balls then a foul has been committed, which results in lost of inning plus a penalty ball must be paid or owe if you cant afford it. the incoming player has ball in position.
I agree 100% but I think it should be the same in gambling.
1 set of rules everyone knows and plays by, unless both parties agree it's ok to try to cheat.
I would think the "nip and tuck" nature and importance of ball position minutia would logically call for all-ball fouls, and that's the way I've always played.
I've watched countless pro matches and, off the top of my head, can only remember this coming up two or three times.
It came into play this weekend in with Chohan and Smith and it turned into too much of a fiasco to not be a foul, especially at the very top level.
The inherent problem with this in a One Pocket tournament is what happens when you are spotting a ball.
two or more is just fine for One Pocket IMO.
I've spent a lot of time mulling over the idea of a cell phone app that scans the rack for gaps and alignment and perhaps provides information on how the gaps present are believed to affect how the balls will spread... It could also be used for accurate ball spotting.
Its not so much the accuracy that matters as it does the fact that the spotted ball has to be frozen to the existing balls. This means you are coming in contact with the stack. Its almost never a foul when spotting a ball but it would get a lot grayer with all ball fouls.
I can understand the idea behind preventing balls being moved for the purpose of an advantage but its not rotation where the "road map" of the rack being altered can change the game entirely. In One Pocket there are so many options and so many things going on that its much less significant. Also, because of the play the ball as it lies rule, fouling on accident can hurt the incoming player. It just makes the game funny.