When is it ok to quit as a winner?

[iasaxman]

I’m amazed anyone thinks its ok to quit up.

In the room I came up in this shi*t would not have been tolerated. If you don’t set a time to quit then you play until the loser quits, plain and simple. I find it real hard to believe that you can quit up and still get games.

I'm all for letting the loser decide when its done, but I've seen some things in my poolhall that make me second guess this idea.

For example:
There are a couple of younger guys who come in and woof at everyone else offering up the world. I've seen them give people the last 4, breaks, and BIH after the break for large sets. I had one of them let me pick my weight(fish 2 balls out of the return at random). One was the 7-ball and the other was the 2-ball. Mind you these are wild. I'm pretty sure I can run 2 balls fairly often.

Now, in both cases, the kid giving the weight gets called out on it and loses sets. During the whole time he's losing, he's whining and complaining about how no body can give that kind of weight and win. I may not agree with it in general, but I'll quit those kind of gamblers a winner every single time.

I'm not about to give them a chance to play it back since they're gonna try to lessen the weight to their favor now, or just complain enough that you won't give them a chance to win it back.

If you want action, act accordingly. You want to woof, be prepared to get called. If you can't win with the weight you offer, don't gamble!

 

[a_susie_cue]

Nice answer Mike

Q. When is it ok to quit as a winner?

A. When your opponent is busted !


Mj

Nice answer Mike

 

[NateSchoepf]

I agree with everyone who says quit when you want to(unless otherwise stated at the start of your gambling session), I have a problem of not quiting when I get ahead and almost always give it back, I work hard to beat better players then I give it back, I hate it when I do that, its just stupid to say you have to play until the loser quits, who thought up that one and why??????????

 

[Snapshot9]

Pretty much

It's over when, by prior agreeement, the time limit or other limit has been reached. In that case it's not "quitting as winner" as it's usually thought of. The match is just over.[/QUOTE

How I see it. I usually ask if they have to quit by a certain time, if the answer is 'no', then I usually stipulate that noone quits without playing
1,2, or 3 more sets, depending on who I am playing, and if I know them well or not. I usually double up the last sets if down, and only had 1 guy refuse to do it, and left many of them cussing when we were done.

 

[Snoogi]

Something I heard but can't recall where..win must go ahead, lose must backout. Don't know how true it is..or how reliable to let the situation take control..like gambling..

 

[a_susie_cue]

Where did it come from???

I agree with everyone who says quit when you want to(unless otherwise stated at the start of your gambling session), I have a problem of not quiting when I get ahead and almost always give it back, I work hard to beat better players then I give it back, I hate it when I do that, its just stupid to say you have to play until the loser quits, who thought up that one and why??????????

That is a good question. I have heard that too...never quit while you are up. I do not know how long that has been around and why either. I am not into the gambling thing at pool. I just like to play.

 

[Oddball]

You quit when the money is already in your pocket.

 

[6 Pocket Mike]

Man, I cringe every time I read this sentence. If I win the first set, then it's NOT his money anymore, it's my money now. So I wouldn't be giving him a chance to win his money back, I'd be giving him a chance to win my money. Now, if you're a gambler, you're always giving people a chance to win your money, but it should be on your terms.

If you want to win my money from me, and I don't think I want to put it at risk, then nobody should have anything to say about it. I'll do with my money as I damn well please. If you wanted it so bad, you shouldn't have given ME a shot at it. Any whining and moaning about me quitting winner only makes you a bad loser, and only proves that a fool and his money are soon a whiner and somebody else's money.

-Andrew

This is my reasoning... I am not in to win a quick hit and run. I like my reputation that I'm a straight shooter and a fair guy. There are a lot of players around that are looked at as complete A-holes and it hurts their action. I would be killing future action from that guy or anyone else that heard the story of what happened. I can hear it already..... "Hey, do you see that guy over there?? Stay away from him, don't play for money because if he gets up on you he'll quit ya so make sure if you play him you get up on 'em first. It has nothing to do about being a loser; it's more about being fair. As for the money being yours when you win it?...... Think again, it's like the casino.... it is not yours until you walk out with it.

Sorry if you feel being a class act is something stupid..

All this comes into play when there is not a set time or amount of sets decided at the begining.

 

[Neil]

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[seymore15074]

I'll give 1 set notice minimum, but I do not expect the same from anyone else. Quit whenever you like.

 

[Oddball]

Would it be rude to decline if someone offers you to play for a stakes?

 

[Neil]

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[a_susie_cue]

Is it ok to quit ahead if your opponent is being incredibly disrespectful and using vulgar language towards you? At that point, sure why not. They deserve it.

 

[jcrack_corn]

its more fun to be a hit and run artist.

Just last week I won the first set and kind of looked at the guy (because he wasnt coughing up the moo-la)...he said "wanna just keep track, its only 20 bucks per set?" I said "nah, nothing personal but I've been shot at with air barrels in the past, lets just worry about one less thing and pay after every set." he was fine with that..he paid, i broke my stick down and said thanks for the game....

it was awesome.

I got the hell out of there, he was pisssssed........i do this all the time, i'm +380 bucks over the past 7 or 8 months.

 

[Fatboy]

wow times have changed, in my world it was never "OK" to quit winner, at least offer one more set for everything to the guy thats stuck.

 

[JoeyA]

When Is It Ok To Quit Winner.

For those of you who do play sets/games for money, is it ever ok to quit when you are winning? For example, if you decided to play someone and they made it clear that they have to leave at a specific time before you even began, it is ok to quit ahead? Also, is it ok if you agree to play so many sets and that is all you play, is it ok to quit after you reached your original agreement?

It is OK to quit a winner when your opponent has fired his first air barrel.
JoeyA

 

[jay helfert]

Don't quit until he turns his pockets inside out and the only thing that falls out is change.
Then pick him up by the heels and shake him to make sure he isn't hiding any money. Got it?

 

[Tom M]

Unwritten pool etiquette dictates that you give the guy another set at 100 to win his money back. If you win you can quit because then you can say you did give him a chance and he didn't capitalize on it. Plus you just one another 100 bucks. If you lose then so what? You didn't lose any money on it and you can say you broke even with a better player. It's a win win.

If you take a lopsided game then you were expecting to lose anyway...

Yeah, but he had no way of knowing it was a lopsided game. He took a chance on a stranger and he knows he got lucky in the first set. (Heck, it IS gambling).

Now, he knows it's lopsided. and you're saying that by the "etiquette of pool" he is compelled to play again when he will almost certainly lose?

What about the responsibility of the other player? He knows the uncertaintly of gambling and risked his money just the same.

I admit that I'm a complete outsider to the gambling scene, but I feel that in any sport if you gamble on your own ability, you're risking the money based on your confidence in your game and the chance that the other player is less skilled or less focused or has less heart/game that night. If you get beat, it just means you weren't up to the task. Why would you expect a 2nd chance?

I'm not trying to be argumentative here, but the quitting winner argument always perplexes me. I also understand that it's not necessarily logical and there's a bit of tradition and history involved. That may be the biggest part of it.

 

[JustPlay]

You can quit when ever you want! What are you supposed to do, let them win there money back and then some of yours? Having said this, 99% of the time, most players quit a winner when the other person is broke, starts acting like an a-hole, starts crying for weight or wants to play for IOU's. If I just won a certain amount of money and I know the other player has very little money left and the amount won is much greater than the amount that that player has left in his pocket, I will quit a winner. I am not a sports book in vegas giving another players "odds" on their money.

 

[alstl]

There used to be a fellow who had gambled quite a bit who posted here, his username was OHB. He said he established the rules before the game. Pay after each game, anybody can quit whenever they want.

I suppose it depends on two things. Where are you playing, and what is your approach to gambling? OHB was on the road a lot so if he wore out his welcome in a place he could just move on down the line. I expect it is different if you are in a small town playing the same people all the time. OHB's purpose in gambling was not to make a fair game and play by the unwritten rules of pool etiquette, his goal was to walk out the door with the other guy's money in his pocket. If your purpose if just to hit some balls, gamble a little, never make anybody upset, then you should probably give the other guy a fair chance.