If you will, can you expand on the 4 choices that are different but all work?
Thanks in advance.
Where are the eyes when the CTE "visual" is "obtained"?
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If you will, can you expand on the 4 choices that are different but all work?
Thanks in advance.
Correction: 3 options.
1,3,5
Any experienced ctepro1 player can easily handle those options quite accurately.
Stan
1,3,5
Any experienced ctepro1 player can easily handle those options quite accurately.
Stan
I concur for the "visuals and secondary aim line" are dependant on how one perceives CTE/Pro1 as in all aiming systems.
Thanks, you have said much, and I hope you prosper teaching those that benefit from your instruction.:smile::thumbup:
I have indicated numerous times that in ctepro1 one's eyes are not directly on the cte line. The eyes are offset. ( So please note, there are no direct cte line options for ctepro1. )
So, depending on Cte line wording or cte offset my options change.
Stan
So, depending on Cte line wording or cte offset my options change.
Stan
LAMas, Not what I said.
PERCEPTIONS ARE OBJECTIVE.
PERCEPTIONS ARE OBJECTIVE.
I will establish my "vision center" between my eyes that are 2.25" apart so that I can perceive cuts to the right and cuts to the left the same in reference to the fractions on the OB to achieve the same cut angles.
I will use the secondary aim line from the edge of the CB to the fractions on the OB and memorize the resultant cut angles so that I can call them up for a particular shot at hand.
I have and continue to hold that CTE aiming is usefull, though not parsimonious.
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I will use the secondary aim line from the edge of the CB to the fractions on the OB and memorize the resultant cut angles so that I can call them up for a particular shot at hand.
I have and continue to hold that CTE aiming is usefull, though not parsimonious.
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I didn't take any offense - I know you're not one of the attack dogs. But for the record, you don't have to move anything (your head or your stick) back and forth while narrowing down the aim range - with a little practice all of that can be done without moving at all, with just a glance or two. Kind of like narrowing the aim range by choosing an aimpoint using CTE.
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When I am in full stance as still as I can be, my focus may be on my grip or perhaps eye position or a number of other possibilities.
When I am at ball address as still as I can be, my visual focus could be on my cte perception, the CBE OB aim line or a combination of each in the form of a tube.
What's the point? I am a 1/2 tip pivot away from the shot line with any of the focuses.
They're all correct!
My head position does change as I adjust my focus. I have also pointed this out numerous times: eye shifts are key but the head does move.
So, how does one know if the visuals are correct during ball address. Very simple, test them with a 1/2 tip pivot.
I have put out good information lately. Hope it can help some of you.
Stan Shuffett
When I am at ball address as still as I can be, my visual focus could be on my cte perception, the CBE OB aim line or a combination of each in the form of a tube.
What's the point? I am a 1/2 tip pivot away from the shot line with any of the focuses.
They're all correct!
My head position does change as I adjust my focus. I have also pointed this out numerous times: eye shifts are key but the head does move.
So, how does one know if the visuals are correct during ball address. Very simple, test them with a 1/2 tip pivot.
I have put out good information lately. Hope it can help some of you.
Stan Shuffett
Thanks,
So cuts to the left and cuts to the right may be perceived differently if the shooter is right or left eye dominant. This is OK if one can commit the results to memory for recall for the shot at hand.:smile:
No LAMas, that is what you say.
Objects in space can be seen, objectively. It is very simple.
Ctepro1 visuals are OBJECTIVE.
Stan Shuffett
Objects in space can be seen, objectively. It is very simple.
Ctepro1 visuals are OBJECTIVE.
Stan Shuffett
To be honest, head movement could be of real help here. You can move your head far to the left/right to give yourself solid depth perception and lock onto that vision center. Gene A's DVD "Perfect Aim" demonstrates a great method for doing this.
I meant to say in an above post, "My head does NOT move"
This iphone posting is not my favorite way to post but often it can be convenient.
Stan
This iphone posting is not my favorite way to post but often it can be convenient.
Stan
Where the eyes go, the head must also go. To get a different visual, the eye/s must move to the side or there will be no new visual.
Thanks.
Untrue, Lamas.
So, you can't look at a clock face and focus on the 3 and the shift your eyes to focus the 9 with a still head.
Surely you can do that.
Stan Shuffett
So, you can't look at a clock face and focus on the 3 and the shift your eyes to focus the 9 with a still head.
Surely you can do that.
Stan Shuffett
i am at a level where i cant just step into shot with no lines and no pivot. I explained this over a year ago that system will evolve to this, but not sure who else is there? i started using a cte system about 5 or so years ago, I would use just a ctel and a left or right half tip offset pivot like cte/pro1 and feel to make all shots. there's a lot of mixing and matching of the systems in these discussions, so it leads to a lot of different info. Guys that dont shoot cte/pro1 are not giving you there actual experiences with it, but just telling you how they think it is. I have done my best to separate it all and stop the miss leads and now no one likes me because they want to be known as AZ cte experts, very amusing to me lol
and for the record i did not vote and it shows how most are confused in the poll brainiack started. that is another thing stan has said so simply on here many a time and on the dvd.
Time i hit the gym again and drop the 30 pounds i gained since last summer! slow pitch time and its time to put the cues away and pull the bats out...good luck!
Thanks for your reply champ.
According to the poll which doesn't have to many voters, there seems to be a little difference in what people are doing.
I have a question here,its probably safe to say all the voters on here have the dvd.Why do you think people are coming up with different visuals?
I have only been using CTE for a very short period of time. And, I know this may sound strange but I also see a tube/set of tracks to the OB when I get into the shooting position. My first thought was "what in the world is going on here".
This is all new to me but is very interesting. I will continue to practice using CTE. (former "back of the ball" aimer)
Thanks Stan and to JB Cases for his Youtube posts.
John
What if I only have one dominant eye...or only one eye?
PJ - has basic knowledge of cte
dr dave - knowledgeable but does not use cte system
lamas - no dvd and no cte system but uses the ctel for something and likes to draw pictures
mohet - uses 1/2 ball pivot system along with spiderwebcom,peteypoolguy
JB - uses a cte system he developed
atlarge - pretty knowledgeable in cte systems but i dont think he uses cte?
Neil and possibly JoeyA - experienced cte/pro1 but also mixes in other systems
cookieman - cte/pro1 knowledgeable but does not talk enough about it and not sure how much he knows or how experienced?
scottjen - cte/pro1 experienced users not sure if he uses it 99% of the time.
champ2107 - cte/pro1 experienced uses 99.9% of the time.
as for the rest of the people that pop in and out, i dunno.
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Lamas, with a patch over one eye, I can stand at the head of my pool table and see the foot spot, then shift my eye to see my left corner pocket and then shift my eye to see my right corner pocket and then shift my eye focus back to the spot. I can do that without moving my head one ioda. My eye sort of went in a circle.
Stan
Stan
I will digest what you have posted.
I can roptate my one eye to see the ends of my peripheral vision, but when I return my focus to the CTE line, It is still spot on with no secondary line of sight at any other part of the OB save the original edge on the CTE line.
If you will, what am I missing?
Thanks:smile: