Which carbon fiber shaft is the least glossy?

smoochie

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Title says it all, I am into CF shafts but some of them are way too glossy where when I am aiming to the cueball the top edge of the black shaft will have reflection of the cueball where the edge will be white & or sometimes even reflects the lights and will have two dots where I can clearly see the lights if theyre not LED.

I tend to go very low on the cueball, if you're style shooting while standing up then you wont have this issue, but if you try to go very low while shooting then you'll see my problem, In fact I go lower than normal because the cue is on my right cheek instead of below my chin, so I am lower than the people who are on their chin, the cue will slide to my right cheek if that make any sense so I am very low.
 

muskyed

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Could you just take some 2500 or 3000 wet and dry sandpaper to it? Can't see how it would hurt the shaft, may cause issues on it's warranty, but I think a lot of carbon shafts are sanded anyway from what I have herd. Before you do something like this, I would suggest asking in the, Ask the cuemaker forum listing first.
 

smoochie

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Could you just take some 2500 or 3000 wet and dry sandpaper to it? Can't see how it would hurt the shaft, may cause issues on it's warranty, but I think a lot of carbon shafts are sanded anyway from what I have herd. Before you do something like this, I would suggest asking in the, Ask the cuemaker forum listing first.
Thats interesting, ive read somewhere that you cannot sand a CF? I'm not sure where I saw that...but lets say I did with 2500, how would the CF look? do you have an image of another CF which did that?
 

Shooter08

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If I was going to buy a carbon shaft, I’d go with a white Whyte, if not considering cost, more likely just try a Rhino and get it out of my system, but I wanted a USS also the moment I saw one And realized Stroud was involved. When a cue builder I admire starts including them they built or recommend over their own maple, I’ll pass. I’d also take steel or over carbon or aluminum for a quality bike any day.
 

dendweller

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Thats interesting, ive read somewhere that you cannot sand a CF? I'm not sure where I saw that...but lets say I did with 2500, how would the CF look? do you have an image of another CF which did that?
I would look into that pretty well before I'd sand it. The dust isn't good to breath and you may open youself up to the shaft shedding fibers for a while. Also I believe most makers tell you not to and warn about voiding the warranty.

What kind are you using that are glossy, most of the them I've seen aren't.
 

Shooter08

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I would look into that pretty well before I'd sand it. The dust isn't good to breath and you may open youself up to the shaft shedding fibers for a while. Also I believe most makers tell you not to and warn about voiding the warranty.

What kind are you using that are glossy, most of the them I've seen aren't.
I was thinking Glossy? I’m not looking for, never mind. lol.
 

smoochie

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If I was going to buy a carbon shaft, I’d go with a white Whyte, if not considering cost, more likely just try a Rhino and get it out of my system, but I wanted a USS also the moment I saw one And realized Stroud was involved. When a cue builder I admire starts including them they built or recommend over their own maple, I’ll pass. I’d also take steel or over carbon or aluminum for a quality bike any day.
Stroud was involved in which cf shaft? I didn’t know that
 

muskyed

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No I have not sanded a carbon shaft, actually haven't seen the need to with the two that we have, Jacoby black, and Rhino. Carbon dust could be bad, but with wet & dry, as long as it's wet there shouldn't be any dust.
I have read where others have sanded theirs, and if I remember right also some cue builders on this forum I think. Thats why I suggested moving your question to the ask the cue maker forum where you could possibly get a more informed reply.
Think about it, how do you think these manufactures are getting these tubes so smooth in the first place? They are not being laid up that smooth I would think. The glossier ones probably have some form of coating. If you have ever used 3000 grit sandpaper you would realize how nothing it is as it relates to sanding, it will degloss the surface though.
 
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dendweller

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If I was going to buy a carbon shaft, I’d go with a white Whyte, if not considering cost, more likely just try a Rhino and get it out of my system, but I wanted a USS also the moment I saw one And realized Stroud was involved. When a cue builder I admire starts including them they built or recommend over their own maple, I’ll pass. I’d also take steel or over carbon or aluminum for a quality bike any day.
I've read and been told by an owner that the white Whyte carbon is pretty tacky.
 

garczar

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Stroud was involved in which cf shaft? I didn’t know that
Not cf. BS worked with Lucasi do develop a shaft that had a piezoelectric fiber that would convert 'bad' vibrations to heat. Called the 'Univ. Smart Shaft' or USS. I hit one, pure gimmick imo. I couldn't tell any difference.
 

northdakotafats

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Thats interesting, ive read somewhere that you cannot sand a CF? I'm not sure where I saw that...but lets say I did with 2500, how would the CF look? do you have an image of another CF which did that?
If they don't have a coating like the McD Defy they can be wet sanded no problem. Just make sure you go up and down the long way ( not spinning on a lathe ) and you use a N95 mask. It will be good as new.
 

smoochie

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No I have not sanded a carbon shaft, actually haven't seen the need to with the two that we have, Jacoby black, and Rhino. Carbon dust could be bad, but with wet & dry, as long as it's wet there shouldn't be any dust.
I have read where others have sanded theirs, and if I remember right also some cue builders on this forum I think. Thats why I suggested moving your question to the ask the cue maker forum where you could possibly get a more informed reply.
Think about it, how do you think these manufactures are getting these tubes so smooth in the first place? They are not being laid up that smooth I would think. The glossier ones probably have some form of coating. If you have ever used 3000 grit sandpaper you would realize how nothing it is as it relates to sanding, it will degloss the surface though.
If carbon dust is bad, and I do know that this black material is actually bad for you....what about the black residue the CF lefts in your bridge hand (If you play without glove) - I get that alot, even though I cleaned them with the wipes many many times to remove the excess of that black residue, while playing & with sweat i will still get black all over my hands....is that bad too?

Obviously I'm speaking long term.....not 1wk or 1 month use, I'm talking years of having this black residue on the hand over and over again until you finish off the set then wash your hands...but still is that bad or not?
 

garczar

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If carbon dust is bad, and I do know that this black material is actually bad for you....what about the black residue the CF lefts in your bridge hand (If you play without glove) - I get that alot, even though I cleaned them with the wipes many many times to remove the excess of that black residue, while playing & with sweat i will still get black all over my hands....is that bad too?

Obviously I'm speaking long term.....not 1wk or 1 month use, I'm talking years of having this black residue on the hand over and over again until you finish off the set then wash your hands...but still is that bad or not?
Have friends that build RC stuff and they use LOTS of cf these days. I was told that skin absorption is not a likely/major route of ingestion. Breathing the fibers is another story. Not currently listed as a carcinogen but more of a irritant like fiberglass. Getting carbon black on hands playing pool is not going to cause issues as long you wash after/during play. found this. Post #9: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?1531334-Carbon-fiber-dust-exposure
 
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