Ok, first off I've used the search feature and read at least 30+ threads on cloth here in this sub forum. It was very helpful and I learned a lot, but I have questions that I didn't find answers for. I'm not being a lazy bum here looking for the easy way out.
My objective is to recover my table and try and match the conditions of the pool room I frequent as best as possible. Those conditions are quite speedy. It doesn't have to be perfect because I cannot recreate their conditions, but right now the difference is large. I don't mind a slight difference and I accept that I may not have a choice anyway.
Currently I have regular Simonis 860. It's about 1/2 through it's life. It plays like mud. Really slow. The reason why has to do with my conditions. In summer, with the AC cranking, my house can be anywhere from 76 at best to 79 degrees at worst. Mostly sits around 78. Humidity isn't extreme, but higher than the pool hall and compared to most of the rest of the country, it's moderate (I'm in Florida). That's why the table plays very slow. You have to really power the ball to get around the table. The bright side is, it really works out my stroke and I have good control. Unfortunately, at the pool hall the ball is flying all around and it takes me time to tune into the speed every visit. I almost have to resort to putting the ball. Regardless of my pool hall which is speedier than others, I'm still slower than the others.
At the moment I don't know what cloth the pool hall uses. But I do know it isn't Simonis for a fact. I can tell it's not Simonis and the owner also confirmed it to my good friend. But he doesn't tell everyone because there's that expectation that only Simonis is good. There are a lot of "Simonis Snobs" there, but they cannot tell it's not Simonis LOL. Everything is dandy as long as they keep thinking it's Simonis.
Other rooms have 860HR and it plays faster than 860, but still not as fast as what's in the room I frequent. The speed is pretty fast. However, it's not thin like 760. This cloth is thicker. I used to play on 760 up north and it's like your hand is on the slate. Anyway, this cloth has held up very well, has very few burn marks. I suspect it might be 3030 from what I've read here. If it is, it's my first and only interaction with it so that why I can't identify. I will ask the owner who I'm friendly with when I get the chance.
With my warm and humid conditions, which should I go with? Let's say they've got 3030 - should I get 760? If it's 860HR (it's not) should I go with 3030? Just an example to describe my thinking. Or don't even think about it and go with 760 since in my conditions nothing else will come close to being fast?
The only thing I fear is going with 3030 or 760 let's say and because they are higher nylon count they do well in the humidity and I end up too fast. I don't think that's likely, but it's hard to judge.
My understanding as far as speed goes, based on personal experience and adding in input from this forum goes like this from slowest to fastest:
860 > 860HR > 3030 > 760
Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks fellas.
My objective is to recover my table and try and match the conditions of the pool room I frequent as best as possible. Those conditions are quite speedy. It doesn't have to be perfect because I cannot recreate their conditions, but right now the difference is large. I don't mind a slight difference and I accept that I may not have a choice anyway.
Currently I have regular Simonis 860. It's about 1/2 through it's life. It plays like mud. Really slow. The reason why has to do with my conditions. In summer, with the AC cranking, my house can be anywhere from 76 at best to 79 degrees at worst. Mostly sits around 78. Humidity isn't extreme, but higher than the pool hall and compared to most of the rest of the country, it's moderate (I'm in Florida). That's why the table plays very slow. You have to really power the ball to get around the table. The bright side is, it really works out my stroke and I have good control. Unfortunately, at the pool hall the ball is flying all around and it takes me time to tune into the speed every visit. I almost have to resort to putting the ball. Regardless of my pool hall which is speedier than others, I'm still slower than the others.
At the moment I don't know what cloth the pool hall uses. But I do know it isn't Simonis for a fact. I can tell it's not Simonis and the owner also confirmed it to my good friend. But he doesn't tell everyone because there's that expectation that only Simonis is good. There are a lot of "Simonis Snobs" there, but they cannot tell it's not Simonis LOL. Everything is dandy as long as they keep thinking it's Simonis.
Other rooms have 860HR and it plays faster than 860, but still not as fast as what's in the room I frequent. The speed is pretty fast. However, it's not thin like 760. This cloth is thicker. I used to play on 760 up north and it's like your hand is on the slate. Anyway, this cloth has held up very well, has very few burn marks. I suspect it might be 3030 from what I've read here. If it is, it's my first and only interaction with it so that why I can't identify. I will ask the owner who I'm friendly with when I get the chance.
With my warm and humid conditions, which should I go with? Let's say they've got 3030 - should I get 760? If it's 860HR (it's not) should I go with 3030? Just an example to describe my thinking. Or don't even think about it and go with 760 since in my conditions nothing else will come close to being fast?
The only thing I fear is going with 3030 or 760 let's say and because they are higher nylon count they do well in the humidity and I end up too fast. I don't think that's likely, but it's hard to judge.
My understanding as far as speed goes, based on personal experience and adding in input from this forum goes like this from slowest to fastest:
860 > 860HR > 3030 > 760
Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks fellas.
