Which is a better spot

You aren't the only one in this thread that's sleeping what the ball spot is in the OP.
.....it's the CALL 8
Big difference from the WILD 8

No, the call 8, on the bar tables I play on, will go cross side once you dial in the speed of the break. I'm not saying I'm going to make it more than 2 times, but the last few times I got the call 8 I snapped it in more than once.

Again, it just depends on skill levels, but I'd rather have the extra ball personally.
 
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Biggest spot I ever gave up was 100 to 4 and my opponents fouls didn't count. I won 100 to 0 lol. It was at Ride the Rail & the player I was playing slammed balls as hard as he could but sometimes he would miss the whole cue ball or barely hit. We re-racked every game so after 15 balls it was a new game. I thought I might lose after he started slamming balls 1,000 mph.
 
Also gave a guy in Chicago when I was 15-16, he could shoot any ball in any order anytime and he got the last 4 I think or maybe 5... It was at the end of the year Viking tournament like $25,000 added at John Abruzzo's pool room. I ended up winning a few thousand then went to a 24 hour pool room and ended up breaking even.
 
in order....(my opinion)

one game on the wire to 9.
call 8.
two games on the wire to 9.
wild 8.
call 7.
two games on the wire to 7.
wild 7,
 
Question, if you're getting the call 8 and you call it on the break as some have suggested and it doesn't go but something else does, do you get to shoot again, or do you lose your turn since you missed the called shot?


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You shoot again.
If the 8 goes in the wrong pocket, you keep shooting but you lost your other money ball.

The call 8 is a sucker bet for two players who are not much apart in skills.
After all, the better player would be dumb to give the wild 8 unless he is a ball better than the other guy.
This call 8 gets testy sometimes too as the rules get argued over . Like what if the better player shot the 8 in a combo or carom but scratched ? Does the 8 ball go back in ? What if the better shooter shoots the 8 in a push-out ?
THE CALL 8 is a sucker bet. DON't TAKE THAT SPOT if you are the weaker player . Take it if you are the same level as the other guy and he's overrating himself .
But, if he's a ball better, you're the sucker .
2 games on the wire to 9 is the better spot for the slightly weaker player . Assuming they are both above C player handicap ( can run 5 balls consistently ).
9 ball involves a lot of luck factor .
2 gams on the wire to 9 is pretty heavy unless the spotter is much better .
 
An old thread but a pretty good discussion of spots at nine ball.

For what it's worth, two games on the wire in a race to nine -- the OP scenario -- is equivalent to a FargoRate difference of 38 points.

I think the best point above is that the value of the "call eight" depends hugely on the skills of the players.
 
bob is right.

and all spots in the game whatever they are, are really enhancing the other players chance of winning by a certain percentage..
you have to figure out according to how he plays not necessarily how good he plays what the difference each spot means to him.

then you give him the worse one. if you cant figure that then you will be the one on the rail.
most players cant and so only offer terrible spots to weak players, and get to sit on the rail while someone else takes off the money.
 
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