who do you think was the best full-cue jumper..??

Jadssons said:
Sammy invented the jump cue.
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Yes, sort of. Actually, as related by AZB poster Hemicudas, the first "jump stick" was used when Marcus Collier, the greatest bumper pool player ever, tried his luck in a pool event nearly forty years ago. Collier had mastered the use of the jump shot in bumper pool and, when he pulled out his short bumper pool cue and used it to play a jump shot in pool, the story goes that it caused more than a few to think about the possibility of cues designed specifically for jump shots.

Hence, Collier must always be mentioned as a key figure in the invention of the jump cue in pool.
 
Small world........

Tommy-D said:
> Here's my picks.

1) Smokey Bartlett,even over my other 2 far better-known examples.

When he was up this way in the early 90's,I don't think I ever saw him miss clearing a full ball from more than 4-5" inches,jumping with a 15oz Valley house cue with the original tip,beaten down to about 1/32 side thickness and almost dead flat. He made roughly 70% of the balls he jumped at even from that distance. Any more than that the jump itself was a dead lock,and his make percentage on the ball he was jumping at was probably 85-90%,following,stopping or drawing the cue ball afterwards. I'll say this as clearly as I can with no exaggeration. In the 6 months or so I saw him regularly,he pulled this move at least 50 times either gambling or in tournaments. He'd be hooked off the break,and he'd push out for a jump. If he left you totally hooked but you had more than a 5" gap,and you didn't take the shot yourself,you LOST,PERIOD. I've even seen him cut balls in that were frozen on the end rail,and use sidespin and get his ball back up table 2 rails.

Tommy D.
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I'm not kidding in the least when I say that Smokey bought a 15 ounce valley cue from Jim's Rack and Cue in Shorewood Illinois. He had been using it to play with for a few days and had been putting on quite a jumping exhibition with it. He just gave the room owner $10 or so and took it with him. Said it was the best jumping house cue he had ever used. This was about 1992 or so. He kicked my ass with it on the big table for a few bucks and made me a believer with the rolling out to jump shot BS. I just kept on passing and he just kept on making em'. $Bill was around at that time. He can vouch for the cue story. Nice little post script to this story is that he came into the pool room in a complete uniform for, if I remember correctly, Hazy Bee Exterminators. He even had the matching brown and yellow little pick up truck. The name tag "Joe" was an especially nice touch.:smile:
 
bud green said:
SVB and Putnam are two of todays best but I don't know if they jump any better than Earl, even now.
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SVB's great w/ a jump cue, but i've never seen him hop with his playing cue. not to say he can't do it, that kid seems to be great at everything :cool:
 
first time ive ever run into someone who could effectively use a full jump shot was against fly boy up in tacoma wash. in the 70's. i quit him immediately when he jumped the big cue ball. overall he was great at it and was using it in action.
 
"jumpin" jack hines aint earl! jack hines is a awesome hustler that played earl go to youtube and search "jack hines" to see a hell of a match between them....FAT TONY
 
Top ten are as follows:

1. Danny Green (he used to offer to play anyone jump pool)
2. Jack Hynes (Get's the ball up the quickest)
3. Shawn Putnam (Better with the short stick but he jumps with the full cue unbelievable too)
4. Earl Strickland (I seen him jump from one table to the next and make a spot shot at Academy Billiards in Canton OH circa 1995)
5. Sammy Jones (Nicknamed Jumpin for a reason)
6. Mike Massey (Can get the cueball a mile high)
7. Slim Carney (Used to play with a homemade Jump/break cue in the late 80's and would jump a ball a rack)
8. Rafeal Martinez (Best jump banker)
9. Gerry Slivka (Great all around jumper)
10.Double J (Best onepocket jumper)

Honorable mention Erman Bullard on the small track

That's the way I see it the past 20 years
 
Flex said:
You seem to know so much about his equipment and it's state, tell me, are you the meister who dropped those shots?
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Yes, it was me. Ever seen anybody try shots like that in matches?

I was down 6-0 when I made that side pocket jump. The guy's backer broke out laughing when I started lining it up. I think I'd made two balls in the match so far. I had to stop and wait for my opponent to quit laughing because he couldn't control himself once it started. They weren't laughing at all when I ran out and then won the next 10 in a row. I think it scared them.
 
unknownpro said:
Yes, it was me. Ever seen anybody try shots like that in matches?

I was down 6-0 when I made that side pocket jump. The guy's backer broke out laughing when I started lining it up. I think I'd made two balls in the match so far. I had to stop and wait for my opponent to quit laughing because he couldn't control himself once it started. They weren't laughing at all when I ran out and then won the next 10 in a row. I think it scared them.
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Danny Green seems to like to do stuff like that.

One time I was at Hagerstown Billiards playing some fellow for fun and he hooked me and I tried to jump out of it, the cue ball was probably less than half a balls width from the blocker, and although I got the cue ball up and over the blocker, the ball I had to hit was probably 6 diamonds away and I didn't even come close to making contact and I said something about how that shot was probably impossible. Well, my opponent said something like, You think so? If you give me 10 tries, I'll make that shot, but it'll have to be for 250 jellybeans to make it worth my while. Needless to say, I didn't bite. Anybody who'll lay something out like that has to have the stone cold nuts.

Nice shooting, unknownpro.

Flex
 
dogginda9 said:
I'm not kidding in the least when I say that Smokey bought a 15 ounce valley cue from Jim's Rack and Cue in Shorewood Illinois. He had been using it to play with for a few days and had been putting on quite a jumping exhibition with it. He just gave the room owner $10 or so and took it with him. Said it was the best jumping house cue he had ever used. This was about 1992 or so. He kicked my ass with it on the big table for a few bucks and made me a believer with the rolling out to jump shot BS. I just kept on passing and he just kept on making em'. $Bill was around at that time. He can vouch for the cue story. Nice little post script to this story is that he came into the pool room in a complete uniform for, if I remember correctly, Hazy Bee Exterminators. He even had the matching brown and yellow little pick up truck. The name tag "Joe" was an especially nice touch.:smile:
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Where exactly is Jim's Rack & Cue in Shorewood? Or should I say where was it?
 
Ah, the good ol' days..........

The 1st incarnation of it was in the Apple Tree plaza. The one Subway and Dairy Queen are in. The second one was in the Shorewood plaza where Bedrock's and the dance studio are at now. Kinda to the right of Shorewood Bank. Jim Gray opened it around 1992 and it closed at the second location around 1999 or so. Pretty sad. They were fun places to play and hang out. But as with many thing in life, they just kind of ran their course.:(

I see you're from Plainfield. Do you ever get out and play anywhere? If so, where?
 
RE: Rafael Martinez

macguy said:
It was not the cue he played with. If you picked it up, it was only about 9 ounces. I saw him jumping with a full cue as well and could not believe it, till I picked up the cue then I knew how he was doing it. Best I ever saw was Bill Stegall from Tampa, (sp?) (I think he is dead now). He jumped with the cue he played with and this was back in the early 70's when no one was jumping. He would jump and draw the cue ball back the length of the table.
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This was not the case when I've seen him jump. He jumped with the same cue he played with and I highly doubt it was a 9 oz. cue he was playing with.
 
huckster said:
Top ten are as follows:

1. Danny Green (he used to offer to play anyone jump pool)
2. Jack Hynes (Get's the ball up the quickest)
3. Shawn Putnam (Better with the short stick but he jumps with the full cue unbelievable too)
4. Earl Strickland (I seen him jump from one table to the next and make a spot shot at Academy Billiards in Canton OH circa 1995)
5. Sammy Jones (Nicknamed Jumpin for a reason)
6. Mike Massey (Can get the cueball a mile high)
7. Slim Carney (Used to play with a homemade Jump/break cue in the late 80's and would jump a ball a rack)
8. Rafeal Martinez (Best jump banker)
9. Gerry Slivka (Great all around jumper)
10.Double J (Best onepocket jumper)

Honorable mention Erman Bullard on the small track

That's the way I see it the past 20 years
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Being from Ohio, I can't believe Steve McAnnich isn't on your list Huck..... He was for better than 5 of the guys on your list that I know of and he may have been just as good or better than the rest.
 
The Saw said:
Being from Ohio, I can't believe Steve McAnnich isn't on your list Huck..... He was for better than 5 of the guys on your list that I know of and he may have been just as good or better than the rest.
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I never seen McCannich jump must against me he was always straight in:(
 
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