Who Doesnt Jay Know

Duffman

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It seems that every time someone posts , "Anyone Know this Player" thread Jay always knows the guy. And it always seems he knows that player more than in just passing and can recall that person in great detail. I was really impressed with Pool Wars, but I am more impressed by reading these forums.

I cant remember the face or a name of a person that I met 2 nights ago, much less 20 years ago. Its damn impressive and I think one of the coolest aspects of these forums.

What I want to know is, Who Jay Doesnt Know?
 
Yeah, but I'll bet he doesn't know Alfredo de Oro. Now if Jay comes on here and says he spent some time on the road with Alfredo, I'll be impressed. :grin:
 
Shoot this thing!!!!

There was a comedian who became extremely popular back in the 70's, telling stories about his friends and family in Mississippi. I think the correct spelling is Jerry Clower. One of his most famous tails was about a fellow named Marcel Ledbedder who climbed a tree and got in a skirmish with a lynx. In those days you could make a tough shot on a pool table and your opponent and people on the rail would say, "Knock em out John" which was a reference to that story.
Anyway Jerry Clower had a special gift for remembering details. He did thousands of shows but could tell you the band that may have opened the show just one time for him. He could recall the name of the hotel and what street it was located on in an obscure small town. That type of thing. I believe that Jay may have a similar gift. I don't know if it is as strong as Mr. Clower's was, but I do think it is a special gift and that Jay has found a way to put it to use. A good thing.
 
He doesn't know me but hopefully that will change sometime in the future.
 
Jay doesn't know me!!

Alright Jay, that's a challenge. Do your detective work. :grin:
I'll give you a hint, my first name is Jason. :wink:

Seriously, we as pool fanatics are so lucky to be blessed with Jay's knowledge, memory and experiences.
 
There was a category on Jeopardy titled, People Jay Doesn't Know, and no one could name one person that Jay didn't know. :grin:
 
Jay doesn't know me!!

Alright Jay, that's a challenge. Do your detective work. :grin:
I'll give you a hint, my first name is Jason. :wink:

Seriously, we as pool fanatics are so lucky to be blessed with Jay's knowledge, memory and experiences.

I know you're not Kirkwood or Miller. But are you the Jason from Idaho who tried to hustle me at the U.S. Bar Table two years ago? A friend of Doug Berest who owns the big poolroom in Boise. I should remember your last name and I will think of it. I found out you play pretty good. I called Doug. :wink:
 
Bad news guys. There's a lot of players I don't know or barely knew. I never saw Buster Merchant play, but we were at the same place a couple of times. He was in Clinton, Iowa for the big bar table bash many moons ago.

Several people have sent me PM's about players who I either didn't know or only knew by name. Truth be known, I really only knew the players who traveled around for the most part. The stay at home champions could stay under the radar sometimes.

Buttermilk is another guy who I never saw play. I was around him and didn't have any idea how good he was. Lucky me. But pretty much all the top name players of the last forty five years I have seen play. I will say that. From Earl Shriver, Hubert Cokes, UJ Puckett, Jimmy Moore, Irving Crane, Jimmy Caras and Marcel Camp on down. They were a few of the old time players when I was a kid. Their careers stretch back to the 40's and even earlier, so I would hear about Greenleaf back then. He was REVERED by the old time players. And the hustlers still talked a lot about White Rags who had only died a few years before. Clem was another name that came up in every discussion about One Pocket.

Others from the 60's I saw in action, included George Rood, Jr. Goff, Detroit Whitey, Tacoma Whitey, Harry Petros, Joey Spaeth, Sammy Blumenthal, Eufemia, Balsis, Cornbread, Lassiter, Boston Shorty, Danny Jones, Irish, Vern Elliott, Jersey Red, Ervolino, NY Blackie, Richie From The Bronx, Boston Joey, Ed Kelly, Ronnie, Richie, Omaha Fats, NY Fats, Harold Worst, Beenie, Taylor, Cannonball (white and black) and Danny D. There are many, many more who were around in those days as well.

Guys like Ronnie, Kelly and Richie were young men back then, in their prime as players. Truman was around too, even though he was a kid like me. He was already a known Bank Pool player around the Midwest. Buddy was just getting known back in the 60's. Mizerak was a straight shooting youngster, schooled by Mosconi. And Rempe was still called Jimmy Rippy in the Midwest. He was a kid hustler then. I never saw Cranfield play, but I heard all about him. Same with Youngblood Washington from Chicago. Another great player who I somehow missed. I did see Bugs play a couple of times. He and Taylor and Cannonball banked the balls better than anyone else. But Truman got all their respect. Remember he was just a kid back then.
 
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Bad news guys. There's a lot of players I don't know or barely knew. I never saw Buster Merchant play, but we were at the same place a couple of times. He was in Clinton, Iowa for the big bar table bash many moons ago.

Several people have sent me PM's about players who I either didn't know or only knew by name. Truth be known, I really only knew the players who traveled around for the most part. The stay at home champions could stay under the radar sometimes.

Buttermilk is another guy who I never saw play. I was around him and didn't have any idea how good he was. Lucky me. But pretty much all the top name players of the last forty years I have seen play. I will say that.

BUT, you haven't seen me play!
 
Jay didn't know a local (to me) player with a pretty strong game - J.J. (or Judex James), which is a bummer, cuz J.J. has a memory like Jay and stories galore as well. Central IL has a number of pretty strong players, but not quite the caliber of those often spoken about on here (legends), well, other than one - Greenleaf....
 
Jay didn't know a local (to me) player with a pretty strong game - J.J. (or Judex James), which is a bummer, cuz J.J. has a memory like Jay and stories galore as well. Central IL has a number of pretty strong players, but not quite the caliber of those often spoken about on here (legends), well, other than one - Greenleaf....


Judex was a pretty well known shortstop in his day. Still plays pretty sporty for an old timer. He was at DCC a couple of times. Bucky Bell was probably the best around back then. And Stevie Oaks on the bar boxes.
 
Judex was a pretty well known shortstop in his day. Still plays pretty sporty for an old timer. He was at DCC a couple of times. Bucky Bell was probably the best around back then. And Stevie Oaks on the bar boxes.

I stand corrected - JAY KNOWS EVERYBODY!! lol
 
I know you're not Kirkwood or Miller. But are you the Jason from Idaho who tried to hustle me at the U.S. Bar Table two years ago? A friend of Doug Berest who owns the big poolroom in Boise. I should remember your last name and I will think of it. I found out you play pretty good. I called Doug. :wink:

Nope not me. Hint: I am from a state that starts with "I".

...and no, I'm not Kirkwood or Miller.
 
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