Who is Ko Pin-YI?
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That's my point but I don't know if Ko has hit his prime yet nor do I know if he will keep playing
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Good thread. Everyone knows a top player who loses a short race 9 ball match is actually a complete garbage player. Glad someone finally voiced this well reasoned opinion. #hottakes
SouthWest .
Ok so what but the toughest tourney is the U.S. Open which Shane has won at least 3 times and Earl Strickland 5 times so until Ko can venture out of his comfort zone and play his top game and win the U.S. Open I won't consider him at the level of a Efren Reyes ok.
Were you joking here?
10 ball WORLD championship is much harder to win than the US open.
Well of course it is no one in thier right mind would argue that , but a U.S.Open is still a credible accomplishment ,, I would put it ahead of this Turney this is more like a Singles MC
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Thread is satire, mocking Shane haters who use these short race tournies to knock Shane's lack of success in other tournaments abroad.That said, Ko would steamroll Gray in a race to 100, probably win by 30 or more games. 10 ball would be even be worse.
I wish rotation tournaments would do away with short races completely. They're a joke.
That said, Ko would steamroll Gray in a race to 100, probably win by 30 or more games. 10 ball would be even be worse.
I wish rotation tournaments would do away with short races completely. They're a joke.
Your right that the outcome of a short race playing 9 ball proves nothing but I think it's the right format for tournaments. If they were all race to 30 or so then the same two or three would dominate the other players into retirement
That said, Ko would steamroll Gray in a race to 100, probably win by 30 or more games. 10 ball would be even be worse.
I wish rotation tournaments would do away with short races completely. They're a joke.
Not at all it is what it is a nice invitational singles MC type event would be nice to see him play good in the team version ,, and yes Ko would steam roll Gray and probably the field in a race to 100
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lol well yeah of course, World pool masters is like a crap shoot.
You might be right Pulpy, but it's hard to know how hard Mark Gray has been working on his game. His potting and positional playing has the potential to be second to none as a former high level professional snooker player.
That said, Ko would steamroll Gray in a race to 100, probably win by 30 or more games. 10 ball would be even be worse.
I wish rotation tournaments would do away with short races completely. They're a joke.
If he applies himself half as hard as Appleton he could be a threat to anyone in a long race.
I agree on the long races, but TV productions have time limits. As streaming grows in poplularity, perhaps there will be potential for long race world titles.
Colin
Yep pretty much , no where near the plane of a 128 or better field of a world class Turney nice made for spectator event though
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Exactly, which is why 9 ball tournament pool is kind of disrespected, unfortunately. As Eddie Felson said, "Now everything is 9 ball. Good for TV, good for a lot of break shots."
Hate to beat a dead horse, but tournament pool was entirely conceived for television, so the race to 7,9,11 format is arbitrary based on that time constraint. It'd be like if snooker limited everything to a single frame.
Sure, the best players still stand on top at the end of a tournament season, but we never know who the best is, and any 10-20 players in the world can get hot at that right time, and dominate that given year.
I think all pool fans want to know who the best is. In golf, tennis, and even snooker I suppose, the best player can dominate the number 1 ranking for years. In pool, we seem to get a new top dog every year.
If I had an extra billion lying around, I'd structure tournament pool like this:
- No more numerous "World Championships" for every discipline, meaning if you want to compete on my tour, you need to know the five major disciplines (10 ball, Straight, One Pocket, 8 ball, full rack rotation (9 ball and 10 ball are redundant. If one pocket tournaments prove to be too long, we can exchange it with 9 ball, I guess).
- Tournaments will be structured like golf (I believe there are about 30 or so tournaments over 30 weeks). So that means 6 tournaments for every discipline each year. There will still be "major championships," just without the world championship distinction, since the world champion will be crowned at the end of the year.
- Matches will be at a length that both eliminates variance as much as possible and doesn't fatigue the players. 200-300 points for straight, race to 20-30 for the rotation games and 8 ball.
- IPT table conditions. No magic rack or rack your own. And I'd probably ban jump cues. And a strict Q school qualification process, like golf or even snooker (of course there will still be a few Open tours on the schedule: US Open, etc.
- Points leader at the end of the year is the World Champion. Or, the top 4 points leaders enter into a two week long tournament playoff for the title (the NBA, NFL, MLB playoffs all last months, so they can do it, pool players can). I'd consider extending race length during the playoff.
I think we're all tired of short races, since we've been watching tournament pool for the past 30-40 years that way. And who can get more rolls in that given hour isn't really compelling.
What's great about long races is the comeback factor and the punch/counterpunch dynamic they have. Player A opens with a 6 pack (which would all but end a race to 9), and then Player B crawls back into it responding with a 4 pack after player A went up 10-4, etc, etc.
I'd lend you that billion but I'm saving for a new cloth for the snooker table I'm installing.
The points leader idea is similar to Formula 1's driver's championship. It would need a strong world tour, which would be great if it ever could happen.
I also like the idea of Challenge for titles, by merit, as seen in fighting sports. Instead of weight divisions, the various games. Challenges would be daily 3-4 hour sets, race to 2, 3 or 4 sets, as in NBA. This was pretty much how it worked in the old days, when the stars were household names.
Colin
Its extremely rare for a "TOP" World Champion to lose to a much lesser player in a race to 8 at a prestige event such as the World Pool Masters. Not to mention that the underdog beat Ko Pin-Yi convincingly 8-5?
Sorry but you obviously know very little about pro pool
The Ko brothers
The Ko brothers are clearly among the world's elite players. I doubt there are many two-man teams in the world that want to play them a race to 100 for the big dough.
..and they are in their early twenties!!!
I'd love to see a big doubles match between the Ko brothers and arguably the two best players in the world, Thorsten Hohmann and Neils Feijen.
The Ko brothers are clearly among the world's elite players. I doubt there are many two-man teams in the world that want to play them a race to 100 for the big dough.
..and they are in their early twenties!!!
I'd love to see a big doubles match between the Ko brothers and arguably the two best players in the world, Thorsten Hohmann and Neils Feijen.
One match
One match only determines the winner of that match and not which one of them is better then the other. There are many really good players in the pro ranks and about any of them can beat any one in a short match on any given day.
That Ko Pin along with Shane and Alex and a few others are the cream of the crop in the pro ranks.
I don't think any of today's top pros would of dominated Efren or Earl when they were in their prime. They would consistently string racks together in 9 Ball in a winner breaks match.
One match only determines the winner of that match and not which one of them is better then the other. There are many really good players in the pro ranks and about any of them can beat any one in a short match on any given day.
That Ko Pin along with Shane and Alex and a few others are the cream of the crop in the pro ranks.
I don't think any of today's top pros would of dominated Efren or Earl when they were in their prime. They would consistently string racks together in 9 Ball in a winner breaks match.
I love this comment, agree with this comment, and want to point out that Mike Sigel was the one winning everything in site, until he clearly started getting bored/frustrated with pool. But that (him being the monster winner) just shows how strong Sigel was.
Freddie <~~~ in the Sigel camp
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