Who is the best 1 pocket teacher?

"knowledge doesn't do much good when you're frozen, on the end rail" - The Game

The main reason the "old one pocket players" could beat the young, 9 ball players was more about patience than knowledge. You could make a case that they are connected and at one level they are.....at the championship level (at times) they are not. What it comes down to is not what a player knows about the game, it's what the player can do with the cue ball.....and how creatively he he can utilize his shot making, and calculate odds.

When a player has enough "fire power" and cue ball control he can defeat even the most knowledgeable player....for awhile anyway. ;) 'The GaMe is the Teacher'





bbb said:
usually the one that executes the best ie less misses /best conrtrol of whitey etc wins most games imo
but why is it that knowledgeable old one pocket players past their prime could beat the young straight shooting 9 ballers back in the day when one pocket info was not as readily available????
i disagree with your statement bolded above
if the spread in execution is not severe the one with more knowledge can win in one pocket over the player that would rob him in 9/10 ball
just sayin
icbw
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bbb said:
usually the one that executes the best ie less misses /best conrtrol of whitey etc wins most games imo
but why is it that knowledgeable old one pocket players past their prime could beat the young straight shooting 9 ballers back in the day when one pocket info was not as readily available????
i disagree with your statement bolded above
if the spread in execution is not severe the one with more knowledge can win in one pocket over the player that would rob him in 9/10 ball
just sayin
icbw
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CJ Wiley said:
The main reason the "old one pocket players" could beat the young, 9 ball players was more about patience than knowledge. You could make a case that they are connected and at one level they are.....at the championship level (at times) they are not. What it comes down to is not what a player knows about the game, it's what the player can do with the cue ball.....and how creatively he he can utilize his shot making, and calculate odds.

When a player has enough "fire power" and cue ball control he can defeat even the most knowledgeable player....for awhile anyway. ;) 'The GaMe is the Teacher'
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If you or anyone else believes this load then you could certainly use DD as a teacher/coach. You need him.

BBB is correct and you aren't.

ONB
 
bbb said:
usually the one that executes the best ie less misses /best conrtrol of whitey etc wins most games imo
but why is it that knowledgeable old one pocket players past their prime could beat the young straight shooting 9 ballers back in the day when one pocket info was not as readily available????
i disagree with your statement bolded above
if the spread in execution is not severe the one with more knowledge can win in one pocket over the player that would rob him in 9/10 ball
just sayin
icbw
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i would totally agree. if i'm putting money on a 1p game, give me the guy that's the better mover over the straightest shooter any day. don't get me wrong...a pure ball pocketer can play, i'd just rather have the horse that keeps him stuck with very few shots.
 
Excellent thread here, with good input by several people. The right shot for me may be the wrong shot for you! It is imperative that you play to your strengths, and not take unnecessary risks in One Pocket. One mistake can cost you the game, so DON'T go for a low percentage shot! Good patient play will beat many players who are risk takers. When in doubt opt for the safety.

I do agree that knowledge of the game (which is vast!) is key to being a good player. It often amazes me when I see a straight shooting young player pass up an obvious good shot in One Pocket. What I'm aware of is that he just didn't see the shot. What's obvious to me maybe be oblivious to him. I have beaten players at One Pocket who could spot me the 7,8 & 9 in 9-Ball. And won easily! :smile:

There are many good moves and winning strategies that a lot of young players have yet to learn. Knowing when to bank and where to bank is often critical early in the rack. You may not be banking directly at your hole either! You may well be banking into the bottom of the stack or the side of the stack. Knowing how to execute some basic kick shots is also imperative. I see many people pass up some good opportunities here.
 
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communication, demonstration and a sound philosophy about the game.

The most challenging part of "defensive one pocket" is staying awake. This type stategy includes "moving" balls down table and banking them back into the stack.

When a player doesn't have the "fire power" to make balls off the end rail they are at an extreme disadvantage playing "shot makers" that constantly attack with pristine cue ball control. The "old style" of "bunting balls around" is not effective anymore - many of the so called "moves" just serve to slow the game down....you have to shoot to win!!!

As far as "the best one pocket teachers" - I'd still put my money on Danny D., Nick Varner, and Allen Hopkins......Buddy Hall and Mike Sigel also play the game about as well as it can be played.....teaching, of course takes an additional "skill set" that includes communication, demonstration and a sound philosophy about the game.

I believe Buddy Hall as defeated Efren Reyes many times in competition....and many people think Buddy couldn't play the "moving games".....better think again. :D






Old Nine Baller said:
If you or anyone else believes this load then you could certainly use DD as a teacher/coach. You need him.

BBB is correct and you aren't.

ONB
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CJ Wiley said:
The most challenging part of "defensive one pocket" is staying awake. This type stategy includes "moving" balls down table and banking them back into the stack.

When a player doesn't have the "fire power" to make balls off the end rail they are at an extreme disadvantage playing "shot makers" that constantly attack with pristine cue ball control. The "old style" of "bunting balls around" is not effective anymore - many of the so called "moves" just serve to slow the game down....you have to shoot to win!!!

As far as "the best one pocket teachers" - I'd still put my money on Danny D., Nick Varner, and Allen Hopkins......Buddy Hall and Mike Sigel also play the game about as well as it can be played.....teaching, of course takes an additional "skill set" that includes communication, demonstration and a sound philosophy about the game.

I believe Buddy Hall as defeated Efren Reyes many times in competition....and many people think Buddy couldn't play the "moving games".....better think again. :D
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I always heard that buddy had the best cue ball control? And I also heard one of the only players efren couldn't beat in 9-ball was buddy? I've seen some older videos of buddy, boy could he move the rock! Wish I could of seen more of buddy in his prime:(
 
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