who is the Winner?

JMB

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OK all you gamblers lets figure this one out. Archer and Bustamonte playing NINE BALL race to 21. Winner breaks.
 
When two top professionals face off like this, you cannot figure out a winner..
The player who performs better at that time and place will win..
 
BeeMan said:
When two top professionals face off like this, you cannot figure out a winner..
The player who performs better at that time and place will win..

I'd even go a little farther than that. What BeeMan says, plus throw in a little luck. A good role or two.
 
If they used a shot clock, I'll take Busta.
If they penalize grandstanding, I'll take Busta.
Busta is not on top of his game right now but when he was, he beat Archer.
 
I like archer against almost anyone right now. Explosive break plus a renewed attitude equals a dangerous player. And take into account he has matured a lot since his earlier streak of winning the stops. Almost anyone, except Efren. Sam
 
satman said:
I like archer against almost anyone right now. Explosive break plus a renewed attitude equals a dangerous player. And take into account he has matured a lot since his earlier streak of winning the stops. Almost anyone, except Efren. Sam

Ditto what Sam said. Save Efren, I like Archer, right now.
 
I think at their level its all luck (see the Color of Money with Efren and Earl) - you might as well flip a coin. Now straight pool to 1000 would be different, I think the better player wins every time.
 
If we go back in history, it was always the guys with the big break who were beating Efren. Earl and Archer were probably always his toughest opponents. For the sake of fairness, Nick Varner gave Efren a run for his money more than a couple of times with his deliberate well thought out game plans.

Today, we have Bustamante who has 80-90% of the tools that Efren does, but with a big break. That makes him a prohibitive favoriate over anybody that he plays nineball with.

The simple fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter who you are playing if they are sitting in the chair.

I agree that with two top caliber players like Archer and Bustamante, who are both seasoned in gambling and tournaments, it is nothing more than a crapshoot.

However, playing straight pool, I'll take Archer every time.

For those of you who might question the value of the break, take George Breedlove or Danny Medina for example. Both are great players, but not the caliber of Archer, Reyes, Bustamante, Strickland, etc. When they do well in a tournament, or beat a better player, it's because they are sitting that person in the chair and controlling the session by staying at the table with their big break.

One last thing, if anybody is wondering why or how Efren did so well at the DCC 9-ball this year, well it's simple, he stepped up his break and didn't allow his opponent to get to the table. If Efren continues to break like he did there, or better, I don't know who could possibly ever beat him.
 
JMB said:
OK all you gamblers lets figure this one out. Archer and Bustamonte playing NINE BALL race to 21. Winner breaks.

I am a big fan of Bustamante. My own opinion is he is the best player in the world.

Chris
 
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