Who Is/Was The Best Huslter Ever??

At the very end he says "news 5 Chicago" so I guess that was a short for a TV station. I wonder if they could be contacted.
 
Before the techno/info age pool was EXCITING. As a shortstop who liked to stay in action you never knew if you were going to get the bear or the bear was going to get you. A few gentlemen whose retirement fund I donated to:

COONEY
GOFF
W. CRANE
COOK
FLORENCE
SWANSON
ELLIOT
In the case of the GOFF and COONEY fiasco's it wasn't till I found out who they were (days after we played) that I realized I really didn't have the nutz.
 
In reality of course, no one would know who the best "hustler" ever was. Because he was the best../..randyg
 
IMO u are all wrong

To show you how good this guy can hustle, none of you mentioned him cause he must have you all fooled. "RONNIE ALLEN", is the best of all time in pool and golf. (although a little over the hill now)
 
The best hustler ever was this little fat kid on my little league team. The coach was always saying how proud he was of the way he'd hustle out to right field and back.:D
 
freddy the beard said:
Most of the bar-pool-action, hustling moves were invented by Bunny Pots and Pans Rogoff. We all learned from The Rogue (short for Rogoff). Even Jack Cooney studied under Bunny when Jack was living in Miami. Although even before Jack arrived in Miami, he was already a turned out "lemon" hustler. Bunny just polished off a few of Jack's rough edges.

Top Ten List: in no particular order
Bunny Rogoff
Jack Cooney
Earl Schriever
UJ Puckett
Weenie Beenie
Billy Incardona
Sterling Buttermilk Ward
Vernon Eliot
Brooklyn Jimmy Cassas
Minnesota Fats

apologies to those I forgot and left out....

Freddy: I don't know who I would take off your list, but I would think for sure that "Cornbread Red" Burge would have been one of your first picks?

Cross Side Larry
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luther lassiter... used to walk into local poolrooms dressed in overalls and a chewed up straw hat and tell everybody he just fell off the back of a haytruck.
 
Ronnie Allen

nfty9er said:
To show you how good this guy can hustle, none of you mentioned him cause he must have you all fooled. "RONNIE ALLEN", is the best of all time in pool and golf. (although a little over the hill now)
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In 1983, I was at Ceasar's Palace in Las vegas for the Miller Lite Tourney. I was pretty young and didn't have a clue who this guy was behind me. My Nephew who is the same age as me lived there. He came down to the tourney and we were watching a match. He notices the cue, the guy behind is showing to another guy. He said "that's nice looking cue, what's something like that run"? The guy say's "It was custom built for me, it cost $1000 and I had to supply the Diamonds". My Nephew say's " you must be a pretty good POOL PLAYER". The guy say's " I'm a POOL HUSTLER, not POOL PLAYER, and there is a difference". That always stuck with me the way he said that line. I found out just a few months later it was Ronnie Allen.
As far as the Greatest Hustler, there's a long list of guys around we all know today. There's still some guys working the bars across the country that no-one knows about.
 
Top five of all time, I would say, Wimpy,Don Willis,Effren,Jack Breit,Bill Staton. Willis supposedly snapped off Mosconi more than once.
 
Shooting Gallery

I would have to say Freddie Prince Jr. in shooting gallery. ROFLMAO

I mean he played with one hand, then switched up at the end to take all the money. LOL


I am just being funny, I think RandyG. hit the nail on the head with this one.
In reality of course, no one would know who the best "hustler" ever was. Because he was the best../..randyg
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freddy the beard said:
That is the do-hickey! Is it available in a clearer copy anywhere?
Where the hell did you find this?
the Beard
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This could be where it originated from.... Looks like this Dick Kay could be the guy that did the piece. Oct. 72. Funny, the guy seems to be a political reporter... guess that's why Fat's made the comment about Tricky Dick shaking hands. http://www.richsamuels.com/nbcmm/dick_kay/
 
Wow!

Great footage, thanks for posting. Not one mention made of a local So Fl player, still alive and kicking, that would not play tournaments because of how he saw it impacting Danny D's ability to walk in somewhere and not get spotted right off.
 
...apologies to those I forgot and left out....

I am in agreement with all the other players you guys mentioned so far, except one -- Efren Reyes? While a great player and a great gambler, Efren never "lemon" hustled. You always knew who he was and how good he played. Even when he was Cesar Morales in Houston. If I was an unknown player,at that speed,at that tourney, I would have won the Astro franchise.

Dick Cay was at that time the local feature reporter for NBC news in Chicago.

the Beard
 
freddy the beard said:
Most of the bar-pool-action, hustling moves were invented by Bunny Pots and Pans Rogoff. We all learned from The Rogue (short for Rogoff). Even Jack Cooney studied under Bunny when Jack was living in Miami. Although even before Jack arrived in Miami, he was already a turned out "lemon" hustler. Bunny just polished off a few of Jack's rough edges.

Top Ten List: in no particular order
Bunny Rogoff
Jack Cooney
Earl Schriever
UJ Puckett
Weenie Beenie
Billy Incardona
Sterling Buttermilk Ward
Vernon Eliot
Brooklyn Jimmy Cassas
Minnesota Fats

apologies to those I forgot and left out

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I was thinking of the Fat Man and here he is mentioned. Good to see him on the list. I watched him so many times and hardly ever got beat although I never saw him play any top known players but some great unknowns, most of which could run a rack or two of banks or one pocket and were probably better players. Fats would just raise the bet and or raise the talk or change the game.

Although not the greatest player like he said, he was a great hustler. I think he was actually honest with himself, he knew where his game was and was able to negotiate a winning position. That's good hustling.
 
So true, Sam

satman said:
In 1983, I was at Ceasar's Palace in Las vegas for the Miller Lite Tourney. I was pretty young and didn't have a clue who this guy was behind me. My Nephew who is the same age as me lived there. He came down to the tourney and we were watching a match. He notices the cue, the guy behind is showing to another guy. He said "that's nice looking cue, what's something like that run"? The guy say's "It was custom built for me, it cost $1000 and I had to supply the Diamonds". My Nephew say's " you must be a pretty good POOL PLAYER". The guy say's " I'm a POOL HUSTLER, not POOL PLAYER, and there is a difference". That always stuck with me the way he said that line. I found out just a few months later it was Ronnie Allen.
As far as the Greatest Hustler, there's a long list of guys around we all know today. There's still some guys working the bars across the country that no-one knows about.
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Ain't it da truth. Ronnie was awesome, Sam. When he and Keith were on the road together who was going to beat them? As far as the best hustler ever? I believe it has to be the guy who gets all the cash in a town and to date no one knows his name. The only reason I know, Bill Lawson, trapped me is because I just happened to be in Baton Rouge a couple of days later and saw him playing Buddy in the finals.

Jr. Goff use to snap off every town in the south. He looked as little like a pool player as anyone. The only reason he is known is because he played tournaments too. Jr. is known by many different names in bars all over.

James Christopher, made as much money as any of them for a long time. He was a great scuffler. The fact that he never in his life used a closed bridge kept people playing. They all knew no good pool player used an open bridge on every shot, WRONG.
 
Minnesota Fats

he got everyone to think the character in the movie "The Hustler" was based on him.

he hustled the entire country.
 
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